Scared for my boa

[Terranaut]

Originally Posted by Pirarucu

Exactly. It's like telling someone their child has the plague.
When I posted a picture of my burm with his head up, I almost instantly was informed by three experts that he had an incurable disease and should be put down. Needless to say I am extremely glad I did not follow this advise...
People are too eager to "save" your snakes by being the hero who tells you that they're all in danger...

Actually if you 2 read the first page you will see its not like that at all. It was like telling someone their child showed a symptom or 2 of the plague but uts probably something else. IBD was pretty much ruled out on the first page. The only people I see trying to ve heros here are you guys. This person does not seem to care about their "reputation" and inly cares about the snake. Sorry if you had "business" issues with a false diagnossis but nobody here acted like you and snakesitter are accusing. It was pointed out to have a look at snakes with IBD just incase and ruled out when the op said the snake didn't act like that.
Please save all this attempted drama for yourselves. Its not needed here.

To the op. Did the vet mention wether or not any issues from overexposure to premithrin are permenant. Please post all info if this is what really happened. There has been a couple threads lately about the use of this product and its possible side effects. First hand experience is great to share and warn others.
Thanks for posting and lets hope it all gets better soon.

[Snakesitter]

Originally Posted by Pirarucu

Exactly. It's like telling someone their child has the plague...

Perfect analogy.

Originally Posted by Terranaut

Actually if you 2 read the first page you will see its not like that at all.

You know Terranaut, for a second I thought that maybe I was wrong. So I went back at looked at that first page, willing to apologize. But the *very* first thing you say -- and keep in mind this was the first diagnosis in this entire thread -- is "Looking up or stargazing can be a sign of IBD." It could have been lots of things. But you had to raise the Big Bad Cause from post #1.

Originally Posted by Terranaut

The only people I see trying to ve heros here are you guys.

And you seem to be the only one insisting that raising IBD was defendable and somehow the right thing to say. I was ready to drop this after my opening admonition, and you keep bringing it up. I stand by my comment that IBD is an irresponsible issue to raise in such a fashion...and wonder, sadly, how many animals have been lost due to knee-jerk, fearful reactions based on advice like that.

Attempting to move on once again....

Dinosaur, I'm glad to hear the x-rays were negative for physical damage. It also sounds like she is recovering a bit! I think flushing her system of toxins is an excellent idea. If she will not drink herself, there are a few steps you can try. Probably the easiest is to run her prey under hot water to get its fur soaked...thus, she gets extra water whenever she eats. A forced soak for her is also an option, but the stress may outweigh the benefits at this point. Next time you take her in ask the vet if tubing her some liquids would help.

Good luck!

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Snakesitter

Perfect analogy.


You know Terranaut, for a second I thought that maybe I was wrong. So I went back at looked at that first page, willing to apologize. But the *very* first thing you say -- and keep in mind this was the first diagnosis in this entire thread -- is "Looking up or stargazing can be a sign of IBD." It could have been lots of things. But you had to raise the Big Bad Cause from post #1.


And you seem to be the only one insisting that raising IBD was defendable and somehow the right thing to say. I was ready to drop this after my opening admonition, and you keep bringing it up. I stand by my comment that IBD is an irresponsible issue to raise in such a fashion...and wonder, sadly, how many animals have been lost due to knee-jerk, fearful reactions based on advice like that.

Attempting to move on once again....

Dinosaur, I'm glad to hear the x-rays were negative for physical damage. It also sounds like she is recovering a bit! I think flushing her system of toxins is an excellent idea. If she will not drink herself, there are a few steps you can try. Probably the easiest is to run her prey under hot water to get its fur soaked...thus, she gets extra water whenever she eats. A forced soak for her is also an option, but the stress may outweigh the benefits at this point. Next time you take her in ask the vet if tubing her some liquids would help.

Good luck!

Did you not read the rest of Dan's post?

Originally Posted by Terranaut

Looking up or stargazing can be a sign of IBD. I wouldn't freak out just yet but watch a few videos on youtube of snakes with IBD and see if this matches your snakes behavior. If yes and you have other snakes DO NOT BRING THIS ONE BACK HOME. IBD is 100% fatal and transmitable. Sorry.

Did you not read everything or just the part's to make you look to be someone defending the little guy here?

I think it's WRONG to NOT bring it up as a POSSIBILITY due to the fact there are many more animals at risk than just this one. No video or pictures were given at first so it's rather difficult to just go on descriptions I do not think it was entirely wrong to bring up the idea.

[EmbraceCalamity]

OP, I really hope something can be done about this. Did you manage to talk to the pet store about it? I wonder if any other animals there have ever shown signs. It would be strange for it to only be your snake to ever have issues.

Originally Posted by Terranaut

Apparently he did not.
Can be a sign is not the same as is a sign.
By the end of page 1 IBD is ruled out.
I never made any diagnosis but gave the op a video to compare to to help them make an informed decision.
Snakesitter must own a pet store and got burned by a crappy vets diagnosis or was dumb enough to spend a huge chunk of cash based on someones guess. Now he's taking it out on me.
Quick to hear and slow to listen, can't admit being wrong, always trying to get in the last word, failure to grasp what is clearly written ect. ect. Are all signs of net rage.
He clearly had no recourse against what happened in his case and takes it out on others. Not to bright at all
Also I was not the only one who thought it was valid to look at ibd as a possibility. Others posted about it too. Maybe Snakesitter just saw IBD and had a moment of net rage before reading anything else. Again ,sad sad sad

Should we provide him with a butthurt form?



~Maggot

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by Terranaut

Actually if you 2 read the first page you will see its not like that at all. It was like telling someone their child showed a symptom or 2 of the plague but uts probably something else. IBD was pretty much ruled out on the first page. The only people I see trying to ve heros here are you guys. This person does not seem to care about their "reputation" and inly cares about the snake. Sorry if you had "business" issues with a false diagnossis but nobody here acted like you and snakesitter are accusing. It was pointed out to have a look at snakes with IBD just incase and ruled out when the op said the snake didn't act like that.
Please save all this attempted drama for yourselves. Its not needed here.

To the op. Did the vet mention wether or not any issues from overexposure to premithrin are permenant. Please post all info if this is what really happened. There has been a couple threads lately about the use of this product and its possible side effects. First hand experience is great to share and warn others.
Thanks for posting and lets hope it all gets better soon.

She got some fluids tonight, she seemed to take them well. She is in her set up, paper towels only. Small shallow water dish in the warm side because I am afraid to give her any depth of water because she does still have motion issues. She also got some B vitamins so help out as well. If she starts looking better in the next 48/72 hours then I will be almost positive its the pryrethrin stuff. I attempted to call but no one was there, I wanted to ask their ratios but couldnt get anyone.

Originally Posted by Snakesitter

Great point, Zoo Nanny. If no other good comes of this, at least no other animals may have to go through this.

hoping its just a toxin and nothing else. Hoping the fluids will flush it out.