Goanna Lizard Wanted !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by jhinton6932

well V. varius naturally occurs in aussie. so howd they get to europe? its a loophole in the law. transport X animal to europe. breed. now its CCB. export X animal to other countries.? get it?

It's the same deal as the federally protected San Francisco garter snake. It's a felony crime to molest, poach or transport any animals within the confines of the United States, but it's a free market in any other country.

A few snakes were sent to Holland many years ago, every single specimen circulating is a direct descendant of those snakes.

Those Lacies found their way into Europe years ago when it WAS legal to take them, then subsequently bred from there.

[crocdoc]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Those Lacies found their way into Europe years ago when it WAS legal to take them...

No, they didn't. It's been illegal to take them out of Australia for a very long time, way before anyone over there bred them. I know the first person to have bred lace monitors in Europe (the only legal founder stock there) and these are not from his bloodline. These animals have been 'laundered'. It's most likely the founder stock consisted of smuggled animals or someone abused their class A zoo privileges and released them into the private trade, which is frowned upon.

[jhinton6932]

Originally Posted by crocdoc

No, they didn't. It's been illegal to take them out of Australia for a very long time, way before anyone over there bred them. I know the first person to have bred lace monitors in Europe (the only legal founder stock there) and these are not from his bloodline. These animals have been 'laundered'. It's most likely the founder stock consisted of smuggled animals or someone abused their class A zoo privileges and released them into the private trade, which is frowned upon.

THANKYOU CROCDOC! ive been searching for a little bit and everything ive read says its been illegal for DECADES. but laundering isnt all that uncommon, i mean it happened with beardies 40-50 years ago and look at the beardie trade now? so its two-fold tbh.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by crocdoc

No, they didn't. It's been illegal to take them out of Australia for a very long time, way before anyone over there bred them. I know the first person to have bred lace monitors in Europe (the only legal founder stock there) and these are not from his bloodline. These animals have been 'laundered'. It's most likely the founder stock consisted of smuggled animals or someone abused their class A zoo privileges and released them into the private trade, which is frowned upon.

Your vast knowledge on these subjects is always impressive. And informative.

[jhinton6932]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Your vast knowledge on these subjects is always impressive. And informative.

true that !