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12-25-12, 10:59 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
Actually, I shall clarify...
My dogs and cats are my pets.
My reptiles are captive specimens.
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12-26-12, 06:26 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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Actually, I shall clarify...
My dogs and cats are my pets.
My reptiles are captive specimens.
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There ya go! 
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12-26-12, 09:20 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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Actually, I shall clarify...
My dogs and cats are my pets.
My reptiles are captive specimens.
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As long as my snakies trust that I'm not trying to eat them, and killing me isn't their primary motive, I consider them my pets.
"pet: any domesticated or tamed animal that is kept as a companion and cared for affectionately"
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12-26-12, 09:45 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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"pet: any domesticated or tamed animal that is kept as a companion and cared for affectionately"
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Ok then..... 
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12-26-12, 09:57 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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So do you think that in general, wild carpet pythons are as tame or reluctant to bite as their captive counterparts? If not, then we have tamed them in some way or another...
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12-26-12, 10:30 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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So do you think that in general, wild carpet pythons are as tame or reluctant to bite as their captive counterparts? If not, then we have tamed them in some way or another...
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Yeah but wild carpet pythons experience real world threats in their daily lives, they have a reason to bite and be defensive. If you were to take wild caught eggs and hatch them in a captive environment they'd probably be the same as the hatchlings from your captive bred. I personally think that reptiles aren't necessarily pets and they will always rely on instinct.
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12-26-12, 10:48 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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So do you think that in general, wild carpet pythons are as tame or reluctant to bite as their captive counterparts? If not, then we have tamed them in some way or another...
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See, this is where I cannot wrap my head around this.
I never said reptiles lacked intelligence, Quite to opposite actually.
When you say "tame" it immediatly makes me think of a dog or a cat who will claw or bark at the front door to be let in.
Can't think of one documented case in history where any reptile begged to be let back in the house.
I would love nothing more than to place a neonate carpet python in a 20x20 foot room, heated to an average of 100 degrees, with a HOT basking spot and see how a carpet python behaves when given a captive environment that 100% mimics it's natural environment.
I think you will find that it's behaviour would be more in "tune" with the wild counterpart.
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12-26-12, 10:49 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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See, this is where I cannot wrap my head around this.
I never said reptiles lacked intelligence, Quite to opposite actually.
When you say "tame" it immediatly makes me think of a dog or a cat who will claw or bark at the front door to be let in.
Can't think of one documented case in history where any reptile begged to be let back in the house.
I would love nothing more than to place a neonate carpet python in a 20x20 foot room, heated to an average of 100 degrees, with a HOT basking spot and see how a carpet python behaves when given a captive environment that 100% mimics it's natural environment.
I think you will find that it's behaviour would be more in "tune" with the wild counterpart.
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My monitor goes back to his enclosure and tripods to get my attention so I can open the door. I dunno if thats him being smart or just normal.
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12-26-12, 10:51 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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My monitor goes back to his enclosure and tripods to get my attention so I can open the door. I dunno if thats him being smart or just normal.
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Maybe it's just an instinctive routine? That does seem pretty smart though.
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12-26-12, 10:56 AM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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My monitor goes back to his enclosure and tripods to get my attention so I can open the door. I dunno if thats him being smart or just normal.
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That is smart AND instinctive, your monitor knows when it needs to return to it's optimal environment.
Think of it as a built in "alarm system" that warn when conditions need to change one way ot the other.
I would wager to say from my own personal observations that most reptiles can sense barometric conditions as well, and will behave accordingly.
Certain animals recognise rainfall as feeding opportunity, and know when a weather shift is taking place.
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12-26-12, 03:49 PM
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Re: Best Snake Pets: what are your opinions?
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So do you think that in general, wild carpet pythons are as tame or reluctant to bite as their captive counterparts? If not, then we have tamed them in some way or another...
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Yes they are just as reluctant to bite as their caged counterparts... As with both sides there are exceptions and extremes of the spectrum.
I moved this guy from the road with the same ease as I do my own...
I did the same for this 3m beasty with no hassles...
I get the same stories from mates that live in QLD and have their backyards regularly raided by CPs of all sizes and no bite marks when they're relocated.
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