Savannah Monitor, Too Close For Comfort!

[infernalis]

I know I'm guessing, but your Bosc looks a little "feminine".

[MrBosc]

Originally Posted by infernalis

I know I'm guessing, but your Bosc looks a little "feminine".

Well I really thought that as well, every time I see and handle my Bosc it really does look like a girl. I remember two days a go when my sav went to go and have a poop in the water but the back of my sav was hanging over the water bowl, I didn't see anything popping out though. I heard from a previous post that sometimes when they go to the toilet it can sometimes make there you know what stick out which wil blatantly show whether they are male or female.

Anyway besides being able to see that is there some pictures I can take of my Sav maybe even a few pics to examine certain areas for male or female descriptions? if so let me know and I'll do my best to get a few that way I could finally give my Sav a well deserved name

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by MrBosc

Well I really thought that as well, every time I see and handle my Bosc it really does look like a girl. I remember two days a go when my sav went to go and have a poop in the water but the back of my sav was hanging over the water bowl, I didn't see anything popping out though. I heard from a previous post that sometimes when they go to the toilet it can sometimes make there you know what stick out which wil blatantly show whether they are male or female.

Anyway besides being able to see that is there some pictures I can take of my Sav maybe even a few pics to examine certain areas for male or female descriptions? if so let me know and I'll do my best to get a few that way I could finally give my Sav a well deserved name

No matter what, it's all guessing until either a willy pops out or eggs get laid.

I have read people mentioning seeing the female genetalia, But I never have. (Chomper was a male)

[MrBosc]

Originally Posted by infernalis

No matter what, it's all guessing until either a willy pops out or eggs get laid.

I have read people mentioning seeing the female genetalia, But I never have. (Chomper was a male)

Sigh :/ looks like it's a waiting game then, and do they lay eggs even when they haven't got a male around? I seen a post from Aja Michelle, not 100% sure if I got the name correct but she had a video of her sav's eggs that weren't fertilized

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by MrBosc

Sigh :/ looks like it's a waiting game then, and do they lay eggs even when they haven't got a male around? I seen a post from Aja Michelle, not 100% sure if I got the name correct but she had a video of her sav's eggs that weren't fertilized

Yes. They ovulate independent of a male presence.

This is about the second leading cause of premature lizard deaths in the pet trade.

Females will hold the eggs in and go septic if she cannot find a suitable nesting area.

In the wild, they will seek out the best conditions for incubation and dig a burrow, lay the eggs and bury them.

In captivity, the owners often fail to provide the correct nesting conditions, so the female with search until she dies looking for a nesting site while locked in a box that offers none.

Then it gets called "reproductive failure" or "she went egg bound" and no one looks into WHY.......

That has been my whole quest now for this last year, I want to know why every single life event takes place as it does.

The whole Bosc keeping hobby needs a serious overhaul, it has since the very first specimen was shipped out of Africa.

[Lankyrob]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Yes. They ovulate independent of a male presence.

This is about the second leading cause of premature lizard deaths in the pet trade.

Females will hold the eggs in and go septic if she cannot find a suitable nesting area.

In the wild, they will seek out the best conditions for incubation and dig a burrow, lay the eggs and bury them.

In captivity, the owners often fail to provide the correct nesting conditions, so the female with search until she dies looking for a nesting site while locked in a box that offers none.

Then it gets called "reproductive failure" or "she went egg bound" and no one looks into WHY.......

That has been my whole quest now for this last year, I want to know why every single life event takes place as it does.

The whole Bosc keeping hobby needs a serious overhaul, it has since the very first specimen was shipped out of Africa.

And this is shy when we get our sav we will be following your example and direction

[MrBosc]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Yes. They ovulate independent of a male presence.

This is about the second leading cause of premature lizard deaths in the pet trade.

Females will hold the eggs in and go septic if she cannot find a suitable nesting area.

In the wild, they will seek out the best conditions for incubation and dig a burrow, lay the eggs and bury them.

In captivity, the owners often fail to provide the correct nesting conditions, so the female with search until she dies looking for a nesting site while locked in a box that offers none.

Then it gets called "reproductive failure" or "she went egg bound" and no one looks into WHY.......

That has been my whole quest now for this last year, I want to know why every single life event takes place as it does.

The whole Bosc keeping hobby needs a serious overhaul, it has since the very first specimen was shipped out of Africa.

Nicely described

In that case at what age can this happen? the reason being I may purchase some additional top soil and play sand and use the "hill" method so at least there is one place to burrow, as for now the vivarium is just to small to build sufficient depth throughout the whole vivarium.

[dnoy88]

When I first got my sav she would his at me and even try to bite me sometimes wen I tried to handle her to the point that I was scared to try and pet her or pick her up so I also went with the hands off approach for about a week and then she started letting me pick her up and handle her with out hissin or trying to bite me she would be a little squirmy but usually calm down after a min but the last couple times I reached in to try and hold her she has hissed at me and gotten a little aggressive again this was also shortly after she ate just wondering why she's not being quite as friendly anymore?

[Pirarucu]

Originally Posted by infernalis

No matter what, it's all guessing until either a willy pops out or eggs get laid.

I have read people mentioning seeing the female genetalia, But I never have. (Chomper was a male)

From what I understand it's somewhat rare to see the female's hemiclitoris, and it isn't out as long as the male's hemipenes. I have only once seen a hemiclitoris, and it was gone in a flash. It was a young Sav at a pet shop, which is unfortunately probably dead now. It looks like a small, unadorned pink tube.

[MrBosc]

Originally Posted by Pirarucu

From what I understand it's somewhat rare to see the female's hemiclitoris, and it isn't out as long as the male's hemipenes. I have only once seen a hemiclitoris, and it was gone in a flash. It was a young Sav at a pet shop, which is unfortunately probably dead now. It looks like a small, unadorned pink tube.

by rare, do you mean it doesn't actually pop out often. Or do you mean rare as in people don't usually get the chance to see it often because of timings etc? only asking as my sav had the rear end sticking out of the water dish, i seen the poop but nothing stuck out from what I could see.

[Pirarucu]

Originally Posted by MrBosc

by rare, do you mean it doesn't actually pop out often. Or do you mean rare as in people don't usually get the chance to see it often because of timings etc? only asking as my sav had the rear end sticking out of the water dish, i seen the poop but nothing stuck out from what I could see.

Both. Females just don't do it as often as males and it's not for as long.