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12-17-12, 04:14 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: Mites
I have no credentials at all and would never give anything more than what I have learned in the time I have owned herps. But advice was asked for regarding the treatment used. The answer given boiled down to this. Nobody on here is familiar with the mix you are using but these other 2 products we are very familiar with. Both work the same but use different delivery methods. These are in the eyes of the vast majority of people on this site the most predictable and safe/tested forms of premithrin to use. In this instance or when just discussing herp products for me the accumulated knowledge of this site outweighs the single vet opinion. Wanna discuss snake infectious diseases and the vet should have the upper hand. This site is a huge library of collective knowledge all gained from experience. Sure not all opinions are university level papers to publish but there is plenty of fantastic information being traded for free. You can never dismiss the group opinion on here as something to be ignored. I think the other posters in this case are more dissapointed that the op is ignoring the good group advice rather than upset that he has chosen his methods of treatment.
NIX and PAM are proven why go any other route ? Especially when it costs more than Nix.
Just my $.02 I do trust in the site. I have seen it work for many listeners out there.
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12-17-12, 07:03 PM
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Terranaut
I have no credentials at all and would never give anything more than what I have learned in the time I have owned herps. But advice was asked for regarding the treatment used. The answer given boiled down to this. Nobody on here is familiar with the mix you are using but these other 2 products we are very familiar with. Both work the same but use different delivery methods. These are in the eyes of the vast majority of people on this site the most predictable and safe/tested forms of premithrin to use. In this instance or when just discussing herp products for me the accumulated knowledge of this site outweighs the single vet opinion. Wanna discuss snake infectious diseases and the vet should have the upper hand. This site is a huge library of collective knowledge all gained from experience. Sure not all opinions are university level papers to publish but there is plenty of fantastic information being traded for free. You can never dismiss the group opinion on here as something to be ignored. I think the other posters in this case are more dissapointed that the op is ignoring the good group advice rather than upset that he has chosen his methods of treatment.
NIX and PAM are proven why go any other route ? Especially when it costs more than Nix.
Just my $.02 I do trust in the site. I have seen it work for many listeners out there.
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Me Me I'm familiar with the ivomec mix lol
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12-17-12, 08:57 PM
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
Then don't come here for advice if you just want to be told the same thing as the other person and shut down any other proper advice given.
I don't see where anything that has been offered in this thread is really wrong.
Also, there is no licensed professional at that store. They either gave it up or lost it. We don't know.
It's the internet. Everyone should take everything with a grain a salt but in general, if info is continually said by a lot of people I'd be more inclined to be swayed.
Either way, if you or anyone didn't always listen to licensed professionals as the end all be all there would be less malpractice suits in the world.
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I never came here asking for advice on how to get rid of mites, I already had that under control. But I will invest in some PAM and Reptile relief for future use if needed. I didn't have any problems with using diluted 10% permethrin but if everyone feels it's really that unsafe I don't want to risk any animals in the future seeing as I may have been lucky.
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12-18-12, 03:11 AM
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Corey209
I never came here asking for advice on how to get rid of mites, I already had that under control. But I will invest in some PAM and Reptile relief for future use if needed. I didn't have any problems with using diluted 10% permethrin but if everyone feels it's really that unsafe I don't want to risk any animals in the future seeing as I may have been lucky.
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Face palm!
Go buy Rid at Walmart! Its only $6 a can!
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12-18-12, 04:53 AM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Mites
^ this.. I keep a bottle of Rid on hand for any new snakes coming into my house. I have never had mites and I would like to keep it that way.
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12-18-12, 09:12 PM
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Gungirl
^ this.. I keep a bottle of Rid on hand for any new snakes coming into my house. I have never had mites and I would like to keep it that way.
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Done this, used nix, been careful, still randomly ended up with some mites. LOL
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12-18-12, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov-2002
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by CMRetics
Done this, used nix, been careful, still randomly ended up with some mites. LOL
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Clearly you did it wrong or again, someone is lying to you about their practices that either visits you or you visit. Or where you buy/trade animals from.
*knock on wood* I have NEVER had mites in my home in over a dozen years.
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12-19-12, 12:19 AM
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
Clearly you did it wrong or again, someone is lying to you about their practices that either visits you or you visit. Or where you buy/trade animals from.
*knock on wood* I have NEVER had mites in my home in over a dozen years.
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I did not bring any new animals into my home. No one besides myself and my fiance came in or out of our home during that time, neither of us went to a pet store at all up until we recently visited a newly opened one.
No animals came or went, I only use newspaper bedding, and everything is hit with a dose of nix beforehand. The only exposure they could have possibly had is if they came from the new herp shop having them and they hitched a ride on me, even though I didn't touch anything in the store.
It's weird how it works.
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12-19-12, 09:56 AM
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by CMRetics
I did not bring any new animals into my home. No one besides myself and my fiance came in or out of our home during that time, neither of us went to a pet store at all up until we recently visited a newly opened one.
No animals came or went, I only use newspaper bedding, and everything is hit with a dose of nix beforehand. The only exposure they could have possibly had is if they came from the new herp shop having them and they hitched a ride on me, even though I didn't touch anything in the store.
It's weird how it works.
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To each their own. You believe in miracle mites. I believe that they come from somewhere and that you're just missing it. Could be the herp shop, even though you didn't touch anything. Mites can travel I believe I read upto 8 miles or something ridiculous in a single night so from the wall to your pant leg isn't far.
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12-19-12, 12:36 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Mites
I would never buy from someone that has "miracle mites" lol..
Common sense is needed. These things don't magically show up they are carried in on something or someone.
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12-19-12, 01:47 PM
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Re: Mites
I had no idea they could travel 8 miles a day. As always Aaron makes a solid argument. It's possible that on the rare occasion I see mites on one of mine it's because it came from the pet shop.
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12-19-12, 02:17 PM
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
To each their own. You believe in miracle mites. I believe that they come from somewhere and that you're just missing it. Could be the herp shop, even though you didn't touch anything. Mites can travel I believe I read upto 8 miles or something ridiculous in a single night so from the wall to your pant leg isn't far.
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If they can travel 8 miles in a single night, then that means that they can come from almost any point in town and get into your enclosure overnight without any/with very little help. How many people don't have a space under their front door/a window/crack in foundation or something similar that isn't at least big enough for a mite(s) to get into?
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12-19-12, 02:20 PM
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Re: Mites
Mites also die in any life cycle when the temps are too low or too high
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12-19-12, 02:26 PM
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Village Idiot
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Corey209
Mites also die in any life cycle when the temps are too low or too high
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Really? Do you have a link to this? From what I gather from researching them the cold doesn't kill them unless exposed to freezing temperatures for extended periods.
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12-19-12, 02:36 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Mites
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
To each their own. You believe in miracle mites. I believe that they come from somewhere and that you're just missing it. Could be the herp shop, even though you didn't touch anything. Mites can travel I believe I read upto 8 miles or something ridiculous in a single night so from the wall to your pant leg isn't far.
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mite eggs are easily transfered as well mate
after a visit to a reptile shop,eggs may well be in your hair and on your clothing
heres some of the best information i have found on mites
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The Life History of Snake Mites | Vida Preciosa International, Inc.
cheers shaun
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