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Old 12-15-12, 07:05 PM   #46
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I don't go to a pet store bud, it's specific for reptiles. "LOL"
Sold as pets...seriously. Mykee has it correct.
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Maybe the solution he is mixing into the spray bottle is 10%, so then mixing it has an even lower perecent? This would make more sense, although I doubt it....

It doesn't take much to kill mites, my nix is like 2oz or something into a gallon and it's .5% and it works wonders.
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Maybe the solution he is mixing into the spray bottle is 10%, so then mixing it has an even lower perecent? This would make more sense, although I doubt it....

It doesn't take much to kill mites, my nix is like 2oz or something into a gallon and it's .5% and it works wonders.
They mixed like around a cap full into a large chemically resistant spray bottle. I didn't run into any problems with making my snakes sick and they use it for anything they bring into their shop which they have been doing for years. It saves a lot of money to only use a little bit of a large bottle into a spray bottle instead of buying aerosol that can kill your snake, which is like $20 and doesn't last long.
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They mixed like around a cap full into a large chemically resistant spray bottle. I didn't run into any problems with making my snakes sick and they use it for anything they bring into their shop which they have been doing for years. It saves a lot of money to only use a little bit of a large bottle into a spray bottle instead of buying aerosol that can kill your snake, which is like $20 and doesn't last long.
Maybe you missed where I said you can get the same stuff for under $6 a can.
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Re: Mites

This is what I mean. We give good advice about a for sure,tested and of course cheaper alternative to this unknown brew and he just doesn't listen." Thanks for the advice guys"". Wow even saving me money "or "thanks from my snake" would all be much more appropriate. 4 pages of this has me banging my head off the wall. Why can't some accept sound advice?
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Think I might've asked you this before, what's your mix ratio for nix?
1 tablespoon to 1 litre.
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This is what I mean. We give good advice about a for sure,tested and of course cheaper alternative to this unknown brew and he just doesn't listen." Thanks for the advice guys"". Wow even saving me money "or "thanks from my snake" would all be much more appropriate. 4 pages of this has me banging my head off the wall. Why can't some accept sound advice?
Because he has a "reptile specialist" to go to.

We're all just chumps who don't know anything.
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Because he has a "reptile specialist" to go to.

We're all just chumps who don't know anything.
He has someone who might have a degree with years of experience who he actually knows and can talk to in person.

You honestly expect him to trust some random nobody over the internet about his animal's medical needs over a licensed professional? I take everything to do with my health or my animal's health that I read on the internet with a grain of salt, because ANYONE can say ANYTHING here, and claim it's god and that everyone knows nothing.

His animals are at stake, and he's going to trust the source he knows and trusts most, rather than a stranger with an avatar. Kudos to him.
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Re: Mites

I originally only asked how it took so long for the mites to spread after I first thought they were eliminated. I was told by my brother a few mites isn't a big deal and just to soak which I did not thinking about the eggs which led to my eventual infestation of mites. I NEVER asked about the methods I used for my snakes because like I said "I'm not asking how to rid of them". I know how to do this and whether you feel it's safe or not guess what it's my animals and they're healthy after using what I was recommended.
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He has someone who might have a degree with years of experience who he actually knows and can talk to in person.

You honestly expect him to trust some random nobody over the internet about his animal's medical needs over a licensed professional? I take everything to do with my health or my animal's health that I read on the internet with a grain of salt, because ANYONE can say ANYTHING here, and claim it's god and that everyone knows nothing.

His animals are at stake, and he's going to trust the source he knows and trusts most, rather than a stranger with an avatar. Kudos to him.

it all depends where you look,as to the value of the info on the internet.....

i am a member of a Morelia dedicated forum,where there are a lot of good solid reliable keepers,also a few world firsts being done,it does not take a genius,to go over a few of Keepers past threads and work out who is giving out sound hands on knowledge...

hell a " stranger with an avatar ",just wrote the most recently published Carpet Python book...

Nick Mutton and Justin Jullanders,Complete Carpet Python book

imo there are plenty of cases where people,who own or work in reptile shops give out terrible advice....

like the advice the op of this thread was given

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it all depends where you look,as to the value of the info on the internet.....

i am a member of a Morelia dedicated forum,where there are a lot of good solid reliable keepers,also a few world firsts being done,it does not take a genius,to go over a few of Keepers past threads and work out who is giving out sound hands on knowledge...

hell a " stranger with an avatar ",just wrote the most recently published Carpet Python book...

Nick Mutton and Justin Jullanders,Complete Carpet Python book

imo there are plenty of cases where people,who own or work in reptile shops give out terrible advice....

like the advice the op of this thread was given

cheers shaun
if i remember correctly this person in the reptile shop USED to be a vet? Why used to is my question. Also- vets are people. They make mistakes and are ignorant as well. I have seen vets make really REALLY stupid calls that I point out and they get all blustered because "NUH HUH IM A VET I R SMART AND EWE R DUM I HAZ VET DEGREE". Just because they used to be a herp vet or a vet in general I usually get a second or third opinion if I am left feeling unsure.
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He has someone who might have a degree with years of experience who he actually knows and can talk to in person.

You honestly expect him to trust some random nobody over the internet about his animal's medical needs over a licensed professional? I take everything to do with my health or my animal's health that I read on the internet with a grain of salt, because ANYONE can say ANYTHING here, and claim it's god and that everyone knows nothing.

His animals are at stake, and he's going to trust the source he knows and trusts most, rather than a stranger with an avatar. Kudos to him.
Then don't come here for advice if you just want to be told the same thing as the other person and shut down any other proper advice given.

I don't see where anything that has been offered in this thread is really wrong.

Also, there is no licensed professional at that store. They either gave it up or lost it. We don't know.

It's the internet. Everyone should take everything with a grain a salt but in general, if info is continually said by a lot of people I'd be more inclined to be swayed.

Either way, if you or anyone didn't always listen to licensed professionals as the end all be all there would be less malpractice suits in the world.
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They gave me the chemical that's in nix permethrin I think. It killed all the mites on my snake and I have yet to see more. I need to decide what snake I'm going to get for my 40g now.

It's probably Ivomec.
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if i remember correctly this person in the reptile shop USED to be a vet? Why used to is my question. Also- vets are people. They make mistakes and are ignorant as well. I have seen vets make really REALLY stupid calls that I point out and they get all blustered because "NUH HUH IM A VET I R SMART AND EWE R DUM I HAZ VET DEGREE". Just because they used to be a herp vet or a vet in general I usually get a second or third opinion if I am left feeling unsure.
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used to be a vet says it all imo

the guy in the shop sounds like a Walter Mitty type guy...


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imo theres plenty good vets out there who have NO reptile experience,if they would just TELL you they have NO reptile experience,then you would move onto a vet that did...

imo its the vets out there with NO reptile experience,that think " what the hell,i'm a vet,so i'll have a go at sorting out this ill reptile,that give vets a bad name...

imo you really need to do your homework,when looking for a GOOD knowledgable reptile vet...

i had 3 good vets here in Scotland,1 retired,1 took a job in a zoo,so i'm down to one very elderly vet...

i don't know what i'll do when he retires

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it all depends where you look,as to the value of the info on the internet.....

i am a member of a Morelia dedicated forum,where there are a lot of good solid reliable keepers,also a few world firsts being done,it does not take a genius,to go over a few of Keepers past threads and work out who is giving out sound hands on knowledge...

hell a " stranger with an avatar ",just wrote the most recently published Carpet Python book...

Nick Mutton and Justin Jullanders,Complete Carpet Python book

imo there are plenty of cases where people,who own or work in reptile shops give out terrible advice....

like the advice the op of this thread was given

cheers shaun
I'd be willing to bet none of the people offering advice in this thread are reptile medical experts, nor have written books. Again, none of them have offered credentials, they just speak under random screen names that could be anything. No, I don't trust randoms unless I know WHO THEY ARE. Nor should anyone.

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if i remember correctly this person in the reptile shop USED to be a vet? Why used to is my question. Also- vets are people. They make mistakes and are ignorant as well. I have seen vets make really REALLY stupid calls that I point out and they get all blustered because "NUH HUH IM A VET I R SMART AND EWE R DUM I HAZ VET DEGREE". Just because they used to be a herp vet or a vet in general I usually get a second or third opinion if I am left feeling unsure.
I don't disagree that a second or third opinion is good, but anyone who's taking advice from randoms on the internet is no better than the guy taking advice from some washed up nobody mammal vet. Both are pretty unreliable.

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Then don't come here for advice if you just want to be told the same thing as the other person and shut down any other proper advice given.

I don't see where anything that has been offered in this thread is really wrong.

Also, there is no licensed professional at that store. They either gave it up or lost it. We don't know.

It's the internet. Everyone should take everything with a grain a salt but in general, if info is continually said by a lot of people I'd be more inclined to be swayed.

Either way, if you or anyone didn't always listen to licensed professionals as the end all be all there would be less malpractice suits in the world.
I never said anything in the thread was wrong did I? I simply stated before you bash him for not listening to you, put yourself in his shoes. He's new and ignorant to reptile medical needs, and he trusts a former vet over a random on the internet.
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