17ft Jampea Retic - Page 2

Rogue628 · 12-12-12, 12:11 AM

Very impressive and beautiful animal!

CMRetics · 12-12-12, 01:26 AM

The people posting here, saying "never let it around your neck" have obviously never had extensive periods of time with retics- LET ALONE jamps. Go youtube the video lasting about a minute with that same jamp, the whole time all she wants to do is go up up up!. Good luck stopping that, the people in the picture are fine.

Lankyrob · 12-12-12, 04:01 AM

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The people posting here, saying "never let it around your neck" have obviously never had extensive periods of time with retics- LET ALONE jamps. Go youtube the video lasting about a minute with that same jamp, the whole time all she wants to do is go up up up!. Good luck stopping that, the people in the picture are fine.

It was only me saying it, i havent experienced "lots" of retics or burms for that matter but the ones i have been around the owners have guided the snakes head to keep it from going near anyones neck.

GUITARZAN509 · 12-12-12, 05:48 AM

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it was only me saying it, i havent experienced "lots" of retics or burms for that matter but the ones i have been around the owners have guided the snakes head to keep it from going near anyones neck.

And me also, ive worked with bigger burms than that and you just dont do that kind of thing, not if your knowledgeble

KORBIN5895 · 12-12-12, 05:48 AM

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It was only me saying it, i havent experienced "lots" of retics or burms for that matter but the ones i have been around the owners have guided the snakes head to keep it from going near anyones neck.

You can't fix stupid Rob. If they want to make excuses about why it happened and why that's okay then it's on there shoulders not yours.

Lankyrob · 12-12-12, 07:29 AM

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You can't fix stupid Rob. If they want to make excuses about why it happened and why that's okay then it's on there shoulders not yours.

I totally agree

but as withother threads the issue needs to be raised to protect those that dont know better.

If experienced keepers want to free handle hots or put their snakes around their necks and get killed then that is their choice, if an inexperienced person does it because they dont know better then that is OUR fault as keepers

reptileexperts · 12-12-12, 12:17 PM

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... if an inexperienced person does it because they dont know better then that is OUR fault as keepers

Or is it natural selection ;-)

**Aaron_S** · 12-12-12, 12:21 PM

The scary part about this thread is that the excuse/reason for the animal not being "guided" is that it's "too big" and just "does what it wants".

If you aren't in control of a situation with a docile animal then I'd hate to see the pictures of you in a situation with a non-docile animal. Clearly these people should not own these animals.

Lankyrob · 12-12-12, 01:53 PM

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Or is it natural selection ;-)

Natural selection is when the new keeper does no research, our responsibility is to those that DO research. We need to present good practice so that their research is worthwhile and effective.

This (imo) is why the Aarons and Mykees are so important to this hobby, they stamp out stupidity and replace it with facts that are straightforward and easy for the new person to understand - no deciphering flowery posts that go round and round the point without actually saying it

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 02:32 PM

Around the neck is different from on your shoulders, seems the two are getting lumped together. There is one picture posted where the tip of the tail is curled around Jake's neck.

**lady_bug87** · 12-12-12, 02:39 PM

I think a definition is a good idea.

Kyle, would you mind giving a definition of what "around the neck" and "around the shoulders"? mean and how they differ when working with giants?

Like do you define "around the neck" as being coiled COMPLETELY around whereas the other is partially?

I thought (in my extreme lack of knowledge in working with giants since I dont work with any at all nor do I ever intend to) that to "control" the animal it should be around one shoulder and brought across the back on to the opposite forearm.

and pardon me but if that is your definition I still wouldnt feel comfortable with having a 17ft snake around my "shoulders" cradling both sides of my neck.

but that last bit is just me

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 02:42 PM

Wayne or Alessia could you separate this into a separate thread (but not the "snakes around the neck" thread)?

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 02:47 PM

I just removed this one from my neck after it started to wrap

close but not much to worry about IMO yet

was on his shoulders a moment ago, moved to his head.

shoulders

Jake again, shoulders, he had this girl there for quite some time, more than an hour at least

this was "wrapped" but its the same pied and there was more than 2 ft between the lower portion of the coil and his windpipe. Don't have a better picture.

**Aaron_S** · 12-12-12, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

I think a definition is a good idea.

Kyle, would you mind giving a definition of what "around the neck" and "around the shoulders"? mean and how they differ when working with giants?

Like do you define "around the neck" as being coiled COMPLETELY around whereas the other is partially?

I thought (in my extreme lack of knowledge in working with giants since I dont work with any at all nor do I ever intend to) that to "control" the animal it should be around one shoulder and brought across the back on to the opposite forearm.

and pardon me but if that is your definition I still wouldnt feel comfortable with having a 17ft snake around my "shoulders" cradling both sides of my neck.

but that last bit is just me

I think a snake over the shoulder and not around it is probably the most viable option. You can control the situation with the snake as the other part could be around your waist.

With that said, one person shouldn't never handle a large snake alone. Not only someone in just the same room but two people should have hands on the animal at all times.

DC, there's no reason to open a new thread as this topic pertains to the pictures. Yes, it's slightly different but still on topic.

**Aaron_S** · 12-12-12, 02:53 PM

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shoulders

To have fun in this thread, DC, stop growing facial hair.

Now this is facial hair!

To be on topic, I don't know where you went to school but that sure isn't my shoulders. If something is on my shoulder it isn't against my chin and wrapped around the back of the neck. I personally think this shouldn't be held this way. Over the shoulder and around the waist is much better. Also better for your back/neck's physical shape.

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Jake again, shoulders, he had this girl there for quite some time, more than an hour at least