what do you do with a f/t if the snake doesnt take it?

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

snakes that are kept in a home with controlled environments are not subjected to the harshness of the wild and do not build the immunities and things that wild snakes would. would be terrible to have some bacteria pop up from letting it thaw and then refreezing and having it kill your snakewhereas it might not fade a wild snake. wild snakes eat roadkill and all kinds of nasty things but indoor snakes do not. that's my opinion. wild snakes are also full of parasites and things from the disgusting meals they eat.

i've had snakes not want to eat before and if none of the snakes eat it, i just toss it.

So at what point do they start building these immunities?

I think it has more to do with the fact that they have amazingly potent stomach acids. I mean look at how thick a Guinea pig skull is and how quick they digest it.

[TeaNinja]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

So at what point do they start building these immunities?

I think it has more to do with the fact that they have amazingly potent stomach acids. I mean look at how thick a Guinea pig skull is and how quick they digest it.

i thought they didn't digest that stuff. isn't that what urates are? but i still say to each their own lol. just an opinion.

also wayne, i would have to think humans have spent PLENTY of time building immunities for the things we ingest. i heard a story of people i knew who used to be super germ paranoid and cover their silverware with plastic and all this excessive stuff and apparently they got sick a lot lol.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

snakes that are kept in a home with controlled environments are not subjected to the harshness of the wild and do not build the immunities and things that wild snakes would. would be terrible to have some bacteria pop up from letting it thaw and then refreezing and having it kill your snakewhereas it might not fade a wild snake. wild snakes eat roadkill and all kinds of nasty things but indoor snakes do not. that's my opinion. wild snakes are also full of parasites and things from the disgusting meals they eat.

i've had snakes not want to eat before and if none of the snakes eat it, i just toss it.

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

i thought they didn't digest that stuff. isn't that what urates are? but i still say to each their own lol. just an opinion.

Have you ever seen them poop out a rat skull?

[TeaNinja]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Have you ever seen them poop out a rat skull?

of course the acid breaks it down, but is it "digested"? no.. everything that can't be digested comes out as a urate. (i think?)

Originally Posted by nick654377

are you serious about the urates? i hope your not even i know that is there pi**.

of course....but is pee white....no. it contains all the extra calcium and stuff from bones that couldn't be digested.

[nick654377]

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

i thought they didn't digest that stuff. isn't that what urates are? but i still say to each their own lol. just an opinion.

are you serious about the urates? i hope your not even i know that is there pi**.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

That's a nice thought and all but snakes can eat some pretty harsh stuff without any adverse effects. Their digestive system is way stronger than ours.

Precisely my friend... See the biggest issue is incorrect husbandry. Reptiles in general are pretty damn rugged animals. I have seen more than one snake in the wild with lawn mower injuries, bird attack injuries, big chunks missing and once I even found and picked up a snake that was missing half it's face (entirely healed over, looked like a very old injury.)

These animals are damn near bulletproof in nature, and if their not while in captivity, then husbandry is off.

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

snakes that are kept in a home with controlled environments are not subjected to the harshness of the wild and do not build the immunities and things that wild snakes would. would be terrible to have some bacteria pop up from letting it thaw and then refreezing and having it kill your snakewhereas it might not fade a wild snake. wild snakes eat roadkill and all kinds of nasty things but indoor snakes do not. that's my opinion. wild snakes are also full of parasites and things from the disgusting meals they eat.

i've had snakes not want to eat before and if none of the snakes eat it, i just toss it.

See above statement. If that controlled environment is not what the animal's physiology has evolved to live in, then immunities will be weakened.

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

i thought they didn't digest that stuff. isn't that what urates are? but i still say to each their own lol. just an opinion.

also wayne, i would have to think humans have spent PLENTY of time building immunities for the things we ingest. i heard a story of people i knew who used to be super germ paranoid and cover their silverware with plastic and all this excessive stuff and apparently they got sick a lot lol.

Whatever amount of time "we" have had to "build immunities", reptiles have us beat by millions of years.

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I wonder frequently what a BP would do if it was in a cage identical to what my monitors live in, after all they are from the same part of Africa, I bet a BP would be a whole different snake in a big, hot, bioactive, humid enclosure with an Underground hide chamber with a burrow entrance.