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Old 11-29-12, 08:18 AM   #1
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Re: getting a rat...advise needed.

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The biggest they have for the top cage is 29g but my brother holds two adult rats in his with plenty enough room. Just because they're active doesn't mean they need a 50g.
No one said they need a 50 gallon, but it's nice to give them more room than a little 29 gallon. That's an appropriate size for maybe two geckos that are a fraction the size of a rat and much less active. Plus, the fact that they're extremely intelligent means they do best with mental stimulation and toys, which is hard to provide in such a small cage.

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Old 11-29-12, 08:22 AM   #2
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No one said they need a 50 gallon, but it's nice to give them more room than a little 29 gallon. That's an appropriate size for maybe two geckos that are a fraction the size of a rat and much less active. Plus, the fact that they're extremely intelligent means they do best with mental stimulation and toys, which is hard to provide in such a small cage.

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He's only getting one rat for scent, a 29g is plenty big enough for a single rat. Plus with the zilla cage top you can add in a branch and the rat will climb all around the cage. He also already has the 20g so it would only cost him $20 for the top.
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He's only getting one rat for scent, a 29g is plenty big enough for a single rat. Plus with the zilla cage top you can add in a branch and the rat will climb all around the cage. He also already has the 20g so it would only cost him $20 for the top.
How is a branch to climb the same as "mental stimulation and toys"? That's just decor. And perhaps you didn't bother to read, but when asked, he said:
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Yes it will be a pet.
So to care for it as a pet, it would do better in a larger enclosure with mental stimulation and toys.

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How is a branch to climb the same as "mental stimulation and toys"? That's just decor. And perhaps you didn't bother to read, but when asked, he said:So to care for it as a pet, it would do better in a larger enclosure with mental stimulation and toys.

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Most people only keep climbing accessories for pet rats but the cheapest way for plenty of room would probably be a bird cage
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Most people only keep climbing accessories for pet rats but the cheapest way for plenty of room would probably be a bird cage
I see you're ignoring what I'm saying. And most people keep monitors in fish tanks. Doesn't mean it's the best way to care for them.

And, actually, the cheapest way would be to use old furniture and just make a few tweeks.

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I see you're ignoring what I'm saying. And most people keep monitors in fish tanks. Doesn't mean it's the best way to care for them.

And, actually, the cheapest way would be to use old furniture and just make a few tweeks.

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Have you done scientific tests on the mental stimulation of rats? I'm pretty sure climbing is stimulating unless you want to build a maze for one rat.. and I doubt he wants to strip old furniture.
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Have you done scientific tests on the mental stimulation of rats? I'm pretty sure climbing is stimulating unless you want to build a maze for one rat.. and I doubt he wants to strip old furniture.
Climbing a branch hardly counts as mental stimulation. It's better than nothing, but here's an entire list of toys, houses, and games here:
Rat Toy Ideas
And here's a setup with lots of real mental stimulation:
The Grotto

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