Looking for input....

exwizard · 08-30-12, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

...You are correct for the national laws, however when you have place such as Des Moines, IA with a climate that would quickly kill both Reticulated and Burmese pythons, but outlawing only retics and requiring a permit for any species over, I believe 8 ft, it is evident that these are bad laws based on bad "science" and observations of the ill-informed. Re: their impact on ecosystems, it is widely known (even though its ignored) that other animals that are just as widely kept, if not more-so, do more damage to ecosystems than invasive pythons. Cats are the bets known, but goats are another perpetrator, and as I'm sure you're aware, Cane Toads and rabbits wreak havoc in places that they shouldn't be...

Since you used Des Moines to make your point I will expand on that. I live in Des Moines. Yes our restrictions are not only flawed but are actually worse than you described. Yes, Retics are banned outright, no matter the size. Condas and African Rocks are also banned btw. That is a statewide law. Burms, Amethistines and Indian Rocks are ok though. Cut to Des Moines. This city does not allow any snake over 6' no matter the species without a permit. Thing is Im afraid to try and change our city ordinance for fear it could backfire and turn into other cities like Baxter which bans any "venemous or constrictors" of any kind. That would be bad because among other reasons, Ball Pythons and Corns would be included in that ban..

**millertime89** · 08-30-12, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

Since you used Des Moines to make your point I will expand on that. I live in Des Moines. Yes our restrictions are not only flawed but are actually worse than you described. Yes, Retics are banned outright, no matter the size. Condas and African Rocks are also banned btw. That is a statewide law. Burms, Amethistines and Indian Rocks are ok though. Cut to Des Moines. This city does not allow any snake over 6' no matter the species without a permit. Thing is Im afraid to try and change our city ordinance for fear it could backfire and turn into other cities like Baxter which bans any "venemous or constrictors" of any kind. That would be bad because among other reasons, Ball Pythons and Corns would be included in that ban..

I agree, we kind of saw that in Ohio (depending on which story you believe), it sounds like it was only when USARK got involved to protect reptile keepers there that they decided to include them in the ban.

exwizard · 08-30-12, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

I agree, we kind of saw that in Ohio (depending on which story you believe), it sounds like it was only when USARK got involved to protect reptile keepers there that they decided to include them in the ban.

So yeah, I have my permit and as long as things remain as they are, Im ok.