BP noob, general questions

[franks]

Originally Posted by mykee

Bingo. Reading is good but to take everything you read as The Truth is bad. You need to Do it to truly Know it.

Which is why I am going to buy some balls at the expo in three weeks. However, you are underestimating the value of information obtained from experienced individuals. For instance, I want to know what the average clutch size for a ball python is. You said you have bred over 300 clutches, so your average clutch size should be pretty close to accurate... information that will take me years to learn from experience. So... mykee... what is your average clutch size? lol

[Wildside]

Originally Posted by mykee

Quit reading stuff and do it.
Nothing is a substitute for experience.
Period.
Of the 300 or so ball python clutches I've hatched, maybe 10-12 were 5 eggs and under. This includes first time breeders.

5 and under

[DeesBalls]

Franks, im just going to say this"

Listen to what Mykee and Aaron says....

Wildside, no offence at all to you, please be aware i am not being rude, but Mykee and Aaron have been on this forum for a long time, and they both helped me out, and others, many times over the years. again, no offence

[mykee]

Thought you'd never ask...
My average clutch size is 6-8 with a better than 98% hatch rate.

[Wildside]

Originally Posted by DeEuGi

Franks, im just going to say this"

Listen to what Mykee and Aaron says....

Wildside, no offence at all to you, please be aware i am not being rude, but Mykee and Aaron have been on this forum for a long time, and they both helped me out, and others, many times over the years. again, no offence

Why would I take offense? They are veteran members and I haven't offered anything more than a discovery I made that I thought was interesting and should definitely be considered. Besides, it's not like you flat out said to disregard my advice because I'm an idiot.

This is a very large site and there are going to be people here who don't agree with me on things at all. But there are also going to be people here who are very thankful for my input. My way of herping is not the least bit traditional and most of it will go against internet findings, but as discussed in this very thread, experience is the key. I'm not ever going to offer bad advice to anyone. My methods are tried and true, and I don't give one **** what Google has to say about it.

[dehlol]

Get Pastel female, pin female, and enchi male IMO.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Wildside

Why would I take offense? They are veteran members and I haven't offered anything more than a discovery I made that I thought was interesting and should definitely be considered. Besides, it's not like you flat out said to disregard my advice because I'm an idiot.

This is a very large site and there are going to be people here who don't agree with me on things at all. But there are also going to be people here who are very thankful for my input. My way of herping is not the least bit traditional and most of it will go against internet findings, but as discussed in this very thread, experience is the key. I'm not ever going to offer bad advice to anyone. My methods are tried and true, and I don't give one **** what Google has to say about it.

The part where you said ball pythons won't be profitable even with a small amount of them? If that's the part you're referring to in regards to your "discovery" I'd just like to say it all depends on what you consider "profit". If profit is feeding the adults yearly than that can be had with a few clutches a season. If the idea of profit is to buy a car then you've got have quite a large number.



Anyway, back on topic. Franks, it's great to get advice from experienced keepers but you still need to just do it on your own. It's pretty simple.

[dehlol]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

The part where you said ball pythons won't be profitable even with a small amount of them? If that's the part you're referring to in regards to your "discovery" I'd just like to say it all depends on what you consider "profit". If profit is feeding the adults yearly than that can be had with a few clutches a season. If the idea of profit is to buy a car then you've got have quite a large number.



Anyway, back on topic. Franks, it's great to get advice from experienced keepers but you still need to just do it on your own. It's pretty simple.

With the proper pairings, making enough money to buy a car in a single season is more then reasonable even with a small group of animals.

[Wildside]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

The part where you said ball pythons won't be profitable even with a small amount of them? If that's the part you're referring to in regards to your "discovery" I'd just like to say it all depends on what you consider "profit". If profit is feeding the adults yearly than that can be had with a few clutches a season. If the idea of profit is to buy a car then you've got have quite a large number.



Anyway, back on topic. Franks, it's great to get advice from experienced keepers but you still need to just do it on your own. It's pretty simple.

My discovery was based on non-morph's used to supply my storefront. Everyone has different reasons for wanting to breed. The OP never stated the amount he sought. I just wanted to remind him to factor in clutch size for general purposes.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Wildside

My discovery was based on non-morph's used to supply my storefront. Everyone has different reasons for wanting to breed. The OP never stated the amount he sought. I just wanted to remind him to factor in clutch size for general purposes.

Of course. I would hope they would do that with any and all animals.

There's a number of species that breed really easily and would do well to make quick capital for anyone but that's if you're in it to make a large facility or supply a store.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by dehlol

With the proper pairings, making enough money to buy a car in a single season is more then reasonable even with a small group of animals.

Yes but you'd be putting out cash close to the price of the car in the first place....

[dehlol]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Yes but you'd be putting out cash close to the price of the car in the first place....

Not really if you play your cards right, and depends on what kind of "car" your asking. Yes I can invest 1-2k which can buy a car (a junk one at that), and by the end of a good season end up with enough to buy a decent car off the lot if I've selected the right snakes, that's not counting holdbacks though. If you holdback your first season, and use the money to reinvest into some harder hitting animals, your second and third seasons will be awesome.

[mykee]

I've only hatched out 4 clutches so far, and I could but a fully loaded Fiat 500 Abarth with the proceeds.

[DeesBalls]

Originally Posted by Wildside

Why would I take offense? They are veteran members and I haven't offered anything more than a discovery I made that I thought was interesting and should definitely be considered. Besides, it's not like you flat out said to disregard my advice because I'm an idiot.

This is a very large site and there are going to be people here who don't agree with me on things at all. But there are also going to be people here who are very thankful for my input. My way of herping is not the least bit traditional and most of it will go against internet findings, but as discussed in this very thread, experience is the key. I'm not ever going to offer bad advice to anyone. My methods are tried and true, and I don't give one **** what Google has to say about it.

alot of people on this forum, especially new people get easily offended about everything, just didnt want to start anything.

i will accept advice from everyone, try the advice out, and go from there, i wont ignore any ones advice, it may be unconventional, and different, but it may just work

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mykee

I've only hatched out 4 clutches so far, and I could but a fully loaded Fiat 500 Abarth with the proceeds.

Yeah but it isn't your first season :P