breeding plans..

[DeesBalls]

Originally Posted by Valvaren

Just cinnys are known to cause deformities when bred together, I never really knew anything besides that as there are lots of cases of deformities when trying to make certain supers (super cinnies in this case). Just a breeder on another forum who was unaware of the potential risk bred two together and out of six eggs, two were culled right away (supers) another super has a kink (not sure how bad), there was a normal which was fine and a possible twilight who iirc was fine and then another baby still in the egg who had a bulged eye.

The two that were culled had major kinks and face deformities.

Idk he swore if he knew he wouldn't have bred them and he never would again. I just personally after seeing what could come I would never even risk it.

EDIT : The thread I am referring two has been linking on the reptile report, second page if you wish to check it out.

i never heard of cinnys causing anything, i knew about spiders, but after a little reading, it seems like that will come out when you breed spider back into something with spider.. (spider x spider for example) and carmels have the kink... never heard of the cinny though, can you link that to me here, or in PM please?

other than the cinny thing, what else you suggest?

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by DeEuGi

i never heard of cinnys causing anything, i knew about spiders, but after a little reading, it seems like that will come out when you breed spider back into something with spider.. (spider x spider for example) and carmels have the kink... never heard of the cinny though, can you link that to me here, or in PM please?

other than the cinny thing, what else you suggest?

What does spider x spider do?


So the known mutations that generally have issues:

Spiders - Wobble
Caramels - Kinks
Powerball - Wobble
Super Cinnamon/Super Black Pastel - Kinking, duckbilling
Pearl - Lethal
Desert females - don't reproduce

[DeesBalls]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

What does spider x spider do?


So the known mutations that generally have issues:

Spiders - Wobble
Caramels - Kinks
Powerball - Wobble
Super Cinnamon/Super Black Pastel - Kinking, duckbilling
Pearl - Lethal
Desert females - don't reproduce

from what i read is....

if you breed a spider back into a spider gene, the risks are greater of the wobble coming out...

say spider x spinner this would make the chance of wobble greater than say breeding a spider to a pastel...

like i said Aaron, this is just somthing i read, i have no idea about it, could be complete crap, could be spot on, i dont know..


oh yea, thanks for listing the mutation for me.

[Aaron_S]

Disregard what you've read.

I have a few spider crosses in my collection and have seen a few dozen more. The parents have nothing to do with the amount of wobble in the offspring. Some have a wicked wobble or some don't have much. It does not increase if both parents are spider or have spider in the combo.


Also to really answer your original question, just buy what you like. Find a mutation you really like and either buy it or buy the ingredients to make it if you're in it just for fun.

[DeesBalls]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Disregard what you've read.

I have a few spider crosses in my collection and have seen a few dozen more. The parents have nothing to do with the amount of wobble in the offspring. Some have a wicked wobble or some don't have much. It does not increase if both parents are spider or have spider in the combo.


Also to really answer your original question, just buy what you like. Find a mutation you really like and either buy it or buy the ingredients to make it if you're in it just for fun.

thanks aaron, ill disregard it.. and as for the ingredients, i guess i really want BEL maybe, or even super pastel, any things, its all for fun/hobby!

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by DeEuGi

thanks aaron, ill disregard it.. and as for the ingredients, i guess i really want BEL maybe, or even super pastel, any things, its all for fun/hobby!

Well if you want those then you're on the right track. Pastel to pastel will garner your super pastel and a lesser x lesser or mojave will do the same. You could also do mojave x mojave.