I want to get a berm any info would be great

[AaronRiot]

Originally Posted by exwizard

First point: A permit process would be great but in order gfor me to get this permit, I had to take a class on the care of big snakes. Thats all well and good but this class is rarely offered so if someone wanted to take this class they are S.O.L. I doubt that this class will be given again anytime soon.

Second point: Equating Burms with Cheetahs and Black Bears is irreleveant because those are obviously wild animals and the keeping of wild animals should be illegal IMO.

Third point: I agree with you on this one. An illegal snake does make it tougher as far as vet visits are concerned but what about in areas where Burms are legal? That issue then becomes null.

If you can't wait for a permit then you are acting impulsively and have no business owning _______ that requires a permit. If there was a long wait time all the better, it weeds out the garden.

Two. Yes a cheetah or a bear or a cobra or an eagle or an elephant or a retic or an afrok or a burm or a salty all are very much in the same category of WILD ANIMALS THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO KILL YOU. To say a burm is not a wild animal is ridiculous. You may feel that way because you view them as a pet like a domesticated cat or dog. They are not such. They may not be as aggressive as a WC but that does not make them domestic. A 6th generation lion in a zoo is still a wild animal. If you have the blanket opinion that wild animals should be illegal that includes reptiles my friend.

People have this funny ability to personify animals they personally like as being friendly. Unfortunately this is a dangerous habit. This is especially true for the more reactionary animals, like snakes that have a feeding response that is triggered rather than chosen.

Obviously if burms are legal in ______ area the point I made is void. However, within the context of this thread that is not the case and encountering a health issue will lead to a moderate risk should the OP move forward in their acquisition.

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by AaronRiot

If you can't wait for a permit then you are acting impulsively and have no business owning _______ that requires a permit. If there was a long wait time all the better, it weeds out the garden.

Two. Yes a cheetah or a bear or a cobra or an eagle or an elephant or a retic or an afrok or a burm or a salty all are very much in the same category of WILD ANIMALS THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO KILL YOU. To say a burm is not a wild animal is ridiculous. You may feel that way because you view them as a pet like a domesticated cat or dog. They are not such. They may not be as aggressive as a WC but that does not make them domestic. A 6th generation lion in a zoo is still a wild animal. If you have the blanket opinion that wild animals should be illegal that includes reptiles my friend.

People have this funny ability to personify animals they personally like as being friendly. Unfortunately this is a dangerous habit. This is especially true for the more reactionary animals, like snakes that have a feeding response that is triggered rather than chosen.

Obviously if burms are legal in ______ area the point I made is void. However, within the context of this thread that is not the case and encountering a health issue will lead to a moderate risk should the OP move forward in their acquisition.

I feel like Im debating Aaron S, so I will stop now because there is no end to that. Have fun with your opinions because they are not mine.

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by Terranaut

Was she that big when you got her? I would think she would qualify in my mind. A boa of any size IMHO is still not a burm. Also don't forget the growth rate of a burm.
So regardless of laws or whatever I still don't think this is a good idea at all with no disrespect intended towards the OP.

I agree with your last statement for someone with no experience with big snakes and to answer your question, Black Betty was that size when I got her. I was just curious if she qualified as an intermediate size snake or not. I will not get a Burm anytime soon because I just dont have the cage space for one. That having been said, they are legal here and I find them personally facinating. The OP on the other hand is not in that situation as Burms are illegal there so in that case I would strongly advise against acquiring one until he is in an area that allows them.

[AaronRiot]

Originally Posted by exwizard

I feel like Im debating Aaron S, so I will stop now because there is no end to that. Have fun with your opinions because they are not mine.

Gladly concession accepted.

A final thought, exwizard, sometimes opinions blur facts. With that being said, many of my points were opinion. The wild animal bit is fact. A burmese python is a wild animal. The inability to comprehend this is a potentially dangerous pipe dream. It can kill you, and will not/ cannot think twice about doing so if the stimulus warrants the reaction.


To the OP and anyone else, I am fully for keeping these animals, any animal for that matter, as long as it is a well thought out, planned decision. One must take responsibility for their actions and mitigate risks appropriately both to themselves as well as the captive.

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by AaronRiot

Gladly concession accepted.

A final thought, exwizard, sometimes opinions blur facts. With that being said, many of my points were opinion. The wild animal bit is fact. A burmese python is a wild animal. The inability to comprehend this is a potentially dangerous pipe dream. It can kill you, and will not/ cannot think twice about doing so if the stimulus warrants the reaction.


To the OP and anyone else, I am fully for keeping these animals, any animal for that matter, as long as it is a well thought out, planned decision. One must take responsibility for their actions and mitigate risks appropriately both to themselves as well as the captive.

You sound exactly like Aaron S especially your tendency to always want the last word and I detect a little arrogance in there as well. I wouldnt be surprised if you two were one in the same.

What you said in bold is your opinion. Burms sold by breeders are by definition captive bred. That is fact. I will not ever have any wild snakes. That is also fact so go ahead and live in your opinions, I refuse to be blinded by your opinions or anyone elses. As I said, have fun.

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by AaronRiot

Gladly concession accepted.

A final thought, exwizard, sometimes opinions blur facts. With that being said, many of my points were opinion. The wild animal bit is fact. A burmese python is a wild animal. The inability to comprehend this is a potentially dangerous pipe dream. It can kill you, and will not/ cannot think twice about doing so if the stimulus warrants the reaction.

I so want to get a Burm just to spite you but I know thats the wrong reason to get one so I will pass on that thought.