The one and ONLY python BAN thread (HR511)

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I still believe people should let this go through. I WOULD also be content if they amend the bill based on size and not species. We have here in my city a 3 metre by-law. That's 10 feet. That fits all reasonable species in there with plenty of options for "giants" without a lot of danger.

I believe someone asked the question in regards to dwarfs and their colour mutations. They'd all be banned. Not only do the dwarfs not have a different scientific name yet, but when breeding these morphs into the the smaller versions, they don't really stay all that small anyway.

Specific locales do stay quite small, and just like Jay is working on the snow project to get the snow gene from super dwarf to fullsized retics, there are people working on getting full sized genes into super dwarves.
If you get a super dwarf from some backyard breeder, it will range from 7-12 feet for females and 7-10 feet for males. If you had a brain and spent 50$ more on a quality animal, you can be sure the females wont pass 8 feet, and the males wont pass 6... unless you powerfeed the thing.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Specific locales do stay quite small, and just like Jay is working on the snow project to get the snow gene from super dwarf to fullsized retics, there are people working on getting full sized genes into super dwarves.
If you get a super dwarf from some backyard breeder, it will range from 7-12 feet for females and 7-10 feet for males. If you had a brain and spent 50$ more on a quality animal, you can be sure the females wont pass 8 feet, and the males wont pass 6... unless you powerfeed the thing.

Stephen is right, however I am more inclined to support the size restriction than a species ban, I still wouldn't be too happy about it because oftentimes the best morphs are found with the mainlands and not the island locales (a result of evolution)

I also posted this:
HSUS representatives and supporters,
The majority of the pythons that are involved in the pet trade are captive bred and born animals that have never suffered the hardship of overseas flight or long distance travel. In fact, the majority of the burmese pythons that are now roaming the everglades are descendants from to parent animals that escaped during Hurricane Andrew and can be genetically traced back.
to the HSUS article about the ban here.
The Way Washington Works - Wayne Pacelle: A Humane Nation

[red ink]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Specific locales do stay quite small, and just like Jay is working on the snow project to get the snow gene from super dwarf to fullsized retics, there are people working on getting full sized genes into super dwarves.
If you get a super dwarf from some backyard breeder, it will range from 7-12 feet for females and 7-10 feet for males. If you had a brain and spent 50$ more on a quality animal, you can be sure the females wont pass 8 feet, and the males wont pass 6... unless you powerfeed the thing.

How does one tell if that particular specimen is definitely from that specific locale and will only grow to this specific size as a hatchling, even worse what if it was a morph of the specific locale that looks nothing like the holotype?