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Old 05-01-11, 12:46 AM   #16
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This information is readily available, i dont have one specific source other than my mother who is a RN at a local hospital in heavy Copperhead territory and they are the most common bites seen in this region. She has told me numerous times that it in most cases is more dangerous to administer anti-venom due to the risk of allergenic response and only an antibiotic is given to reduce the risk of secondary infection.
so.... just because you may not need antivenin if bitten, that is a reason to own a copperhead?

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Now elderly and children will receive anti-venom regardless.
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I just googled "copperhead bite treatment" and one of the first headlines to come up was: Copperhead Care Sheet

Feb 12, 2007 ... In most instances of Copperhead bite, no antivenin is administered; instead, the patient is given pain medication and supportive care. Copperhead Care Sheet

and then:

Hiker's Notebook: Copperhead

The copperhead bite is not serious and requires only minor medical treatment. This is because the venom of the copperhead is not as toxic as that of other ... Hiker's Notebook: Copperhead

But i looked around and other websites say different.. The basis of my statement was on first hand accounts from my mother, that's what i believe, regardless id still go to the hospital if bitten hahah.
so your sources are you mom and the internet. nice.

i'm all for you loving herps and wanting to learn, but i don't agree with you keeping hots. and yes, i feel comfortable making that statement without even knowing you. your logic is hazardous to yourself and anyone else that may enter into your dwelling.
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Old 05-01-11, 12:50 AM   #17
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Im often exposed to hots in my profession and have on multiple occasion chosen to handle them to limit exposure to my team and I do have a small amount of experience helping a friend with his hots is ther a reason you are so against it
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Old 05-01-11, 12:51 AM   #18
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.22 caliber bullets are smaller than .45. does that make then less lethal???
Your joking right??? I see... So if someone pulled both these firearms on you and said im going to shoot you with one, which one would you prefer your response would be.... Either one there both just as deadly? Smart one.... Were you came up with this stupid statement i dont want to know...
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I say you should get rid of you venomous snakes?
who said i owned venomous snakes?

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cause you obviously think you know more about thes animals then the next person.
i'm quite confident in stating that i do. at least on this forum. do i know more than everyone? no. do i know more than most? yes.

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**** that noise take that somewhere else cause im not trying to hear it.
another reason as to why you shouldn't be around hots. you have proven to be immature and unresponsive to cautionary advice from someone who has been around a lot longer than you have.

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And me saying ive been around people more dangerous than that snake is justification whether you like it or not.
just curious.... what type of people would you have to be around in order to own an eyelash viper?
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Old 05-01-11, 12:54 AM   #20
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Im often exposed to hots in my profession and have on multiple occasion chosen to handle them to limit exposure to my team and I do have a small amount of experience helping a friend with his hots is ther a reason you are so against it
not at all. what i'm opposed to, is some young kid getting a hot snake FIRST, and then having some indian guy come over to his house to show him how to 'handle' it. does that seem right to you? recipe for disaster.
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Your joking right??? I see... So if someone pulled both these firearms on you and said im going to shoot you with one, which one would you prefer your response would be.... Either one there both just as deadly? Smart one.... Were you came up with this stupid statement i dont want to know...
i was just using your silly logic against you. did you see how i did that?

by the way, a bullet is a bullet. all calibers can cause death. just like all venomous snakes can cause death. are you learning anything yet?
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anyways i dont mean to be negative, but in the end i dont care if you agree with what i do or not, your words are meaningless to me on the subject. If you have any "actual" advice other than assuming i shouldn't, have an animal, then id listen as long as its not about firearms... not to bright in that area i can see.. With your logic i would guess your against those to, there must be a strict code people have to adhere to in order to own one according to "YOUR" standards.
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Ah gottcha I can see your point it would probably be better to learn first
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anyways i dont mean to be negative, but in the end i dont care if you agree with what i do or not, your words are meaningless to me on the subject.
so basically you'll only listen if it suites your needs. typical.

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If you have any "actual" advice other than assuming i shouldn't, have an animal, then id listen
give up all of your pets.

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as long as its not about firearms... not to bright in that area i can see..
explain.....

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With your logic i would guess your against those to,
how so?

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there must be a strict code people have to adhere to in order to own one according to "YOUR" standards.
actually, there is! don't get me wrong. i'm mainly concerned because people like YOU are making it hard for people like ME to have rights in this country.
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Ah gottcha I can see your point it would probably be better to learn first
yes. not only that, but it should take YEARS of experience before one should even think of owning a hot. and even after that, it still isn't a good idea. in your situation you come across them during work. that is completely different.

i used to own hots. lots of hots. i smartened up and got rid of them all, even the rear fanged hots.
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****Beeeep Beeeeep Beeeep ****.
you still haven't backed up anything you've said thus far. i suggest you stick around this place. you have a lot to learn and i sincerely hope you learn it.

by the way, you still have not answered any of my questions. it's been clear this whole time, that you're not ready to have a serious debate.
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I don't have a point to prove so therefore i don't have any reason to debate... i didnt come to this website to debate, i didn't come to this website to have people point out the obvious like a venomous snake is dangerous, i didnt come to this website to learn unless i ask a question, i didn't come to this website to be told what i should and shouldn't own. Now if that's why your here do it with someone else, cause like i said i dont care what you have to say. Now i did come to this website to talk with people that share the same passion as mine. Your a little to concerned about what im doing buddy, notice how i dont ask you any questions about what pets you have or what you do? thats because i dont care. what you do in your life doesn't effect me in the slightest way. Your some random guy on the internet to all of us man... do you really think anyone takes you seriously? dont answer that, infact id prefer you didnt even reply. have a good night.
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I don't have a point to prove so therefore i don't have any reason to debate... i didnt come to this website to debate, i didn't come to this website to have people point out the obvious like a venomous snake is dangerous, i didnt come to this website to learn unless i ask a question, i didn't come to this website to be told what i should and shouldn't own. Now if that's why your here do it with someone else, cause like i said i dont care what you have to say. Now i did come to this website to talk with people that share the same passion as mine. Your a little to concerned about what im doing buddy, notice how i dont ask you any questions about what pets you have or what you do? thats because i dont care. what you do in your life doesn't effect me in the slightest way. Your some random guy on the internet to all of us man... do you really think anyone takes you seriously? dont answer that, infact id prefer you didnt even reply. have a good night.
i laughed out loud at this. so you want to talk to people that share the same passion as you, yet you don't want to learn unless you ask a question?
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Isnt it typical that as soon as someone mentions owning hots they get abused

Maybe it just time to give up on this forum as the amount of aggression seems to be rising and rising, i always thought this community was going to be passionate about the care of reptiles not abusi e to each other - that helps nobody at all
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