Fish!

[Aaron_S]

Pablo this thread has calmed down since I went out last night so I'm not really going to continue it.

I will say though you can't back up your knowledge by saying you worked in a pet store and then say it doesn't mean a thing because I worked in one. You can't have it both ways.

I will get a pic of my clown loach as well as use my test kit. The tank resides with my girlfriend so when I'm over next I'll be sure to do it. I do have a full test kit, I might not have one test but I have the majority. I like how you still assume things.

Lastly, I went ahead and spoke to my friends, and as long as my fish aren't stressed, by lack of eating is a usual sign, then everything is currently fine. My clown loach has adapted to his surroundings. He's fine in the current water quality. I also ensure that it eats. You may think I overlook everything and simply drop in food but again you assume I don't know anything when I've told you otherwise. Stop doing that.

[mistersprinkles]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Pablo this thread has calmed down since I went out last night so I'm not really going to continue it.

I will say though you can't back up your knowledge by saying you worked in a pet store and then say it doesn't mean a thing because I worked in one. You can't have it both ways.

I will get a pic of my clown loach as well as use my test kit. The tank resides with my girlfriend so when I'm over next I'll be sure to do it. I do have a full test kit, I might not have one test but I have the majority. I like how you still assume things.

Lastly, I went ahead and spoke to my friends, and as long as my fish aren't stressed, by lack of eating is a usual sign, then everything is currently fine. My clown loach has adapted to his surroundings. He's fine in the current water quality. I also ensure that it eats. You may think I overlook everything and simply drop in food but again you assume I don't know anything when I've told you otherwise. Stop doing that.

No Aaron, I was right. About everything. YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR WATER man. You can NOT call yourself a fish keeper. If you can tell me your temp within 1F your pH within 1 10th your gH/kH and nitrate FROM MEMORY, you, sir, are not a fish keeper. You're some guy with fish.

I'm glad I don't live in your aquarium.

Example:

TANK I HAD IN 2006!!

pH 6.8
kH 5
gH 5
temp 82.5
MAX nitrate 10PPM
(reverse osmosis water + kent R O right + kent kH booster)

TANK I HAD IN 2008

pH 8.2
kH 11
gH 12
temp 79.5F
MAX nitrate 15PPM
(Toronto tap + Seachem malawi buffer)

It goes without saying I never had detectable ammonia or nitrite. I know what my water was four years ago dude. My angels spawned every FIVE days like clockwork.

You can say you're a guy with fish, but don't you dare insult my superior knowledge claiming that you know what you're doing. You know fish need water and food. That's about it as far as I can see. The rest is full of misinformation gleamed from idiots you should not have listened to and your fish are suffering. Don't post a pic of that clown loach dude because I can already see it in my head and i will SNAAAAP.

You test your water every 7 days bare minimum. If you can tell me what it was the last 4 times and today and have a proper mix of fish you'll be moving int he right direction.

And I can back up my info by the fact that aquarium stores have called ME for advice. The most respected person in the city on freshwater (Harold) thinks I know a LOT, I've serviced $30 000+ aquariums for major corporations in their boardrooms, and I talked some sense into the Toronto zoo's aquarium system. Know why they have clown loaches in the malaysian pavilion in the 20 foot tank now? Because Martin Thoene and I TOLD them to. We also convinced them to shut down their cave tetra tank which was very badly taken care of and even to re-do their seahorse and jellyfish tanks which were not conducive to happy animals.



But I must not be a respected source of knowledge on fish.

I'd be saying all this nicely but you called me a wimp so all of this has been said with malice. I also find it offensive that you can turn your nose up at me and somehow assume you have my level of knowledge when I assure you the snake folks who've been following along could tell otherwise with no foreknowledge.

Ok. Now I feel I've gotten the prick out of my system, I'm willing to try to help you nicely again, if you're willing to take it.

You have a couple of species of very sensitive fish, and I do want to help you keep them healthy if you're interested. So get me that info. Don't show me the clown loach because I know its not gonna look good and those are very smart puppy like fish and I wont be able to deal with it.

You should also, given that you have sensitive fish, be familiar with Toronto (and more importantly your local area)s water distribution practices. Things like- do you live in an area with mostly lead piping (can be very bad), do you live on the proper Toronto supply or the Markham or Pickering supplies (different water). Do you know that in spring the city flushes the pipes with an insane amount of chlorine for a couple of weeks and you must use 2-3x the water conditioner? Do you know that keeping a hardwater fish in overly soft water or vice versa is bad for them because their skin is actually geared toward optimum health in X-Y water hardness and do you maintain your hardness by testing and adjusting as necessary?

WOULD you be willing to get a 250 gallon tank for your frontosas and a 200-250 for your clown loaches (at least five as adults ideally more)?

Originally Posted by mistersprinkles

Fish hobbyists will jump down your throat for supporting hybrid fish. We're losing pure blood very quickly.

I should mention I do have 2 species of hybrid fish in those pictures. I bought those as 10mm fry and they were not labeled as hybrids. Once they were large enough to be sure I did return them. Hybrid fish = bad.