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03-16-11, 01:30 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
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Originally Posted by Reptile_Reptile
Nobody ever reserves the right to be an ***.
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Actually according to the book "**** My Dad Says" we all do in fact reserve this right. It's suggested we,as people, shouldn't use that right often.
I disagree with that statement.
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03-16-11, 02:19 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
Lol I love that book...
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03-16-11, 02:25 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
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Nobody ever reserves the right to be an ***.
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Nobody deserves to die or others die either just because they got handled with "kid gloves".....
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03-16-11, 03:02 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
Lol wow this thread is ridiculous here is some comic relief im unsubscribing
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03-16-11, 03:17 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
I can fully understand how you feel jr about the harshness. I honestly saw it as kinda funny. But the reality is he needs to understand the risk. I personally have experienced this first hand though I have handled countless snakes big small hot and not id never owned one until Enki my retic my gf got him for me on a whim and I jumped right in ther and got quite a dealing of crap for it not here but other places. It was this that made me understand the responsibility I had undertaken and still has me researching all I can so I may care for the animal I already have. At first I was almost offended theis ppl don't know me or my skills my intelligence but they know snakes. To the op try not to get offended take in all you can and remember no one is talking to you in a sence just some guy on the other end of the world jumping into somthing very dangerous and they are just trying to help. What you are doing is not the right way to go about what it is you want to do.
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03-16-11, 03:18 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
Lol that's how I felt about I am legend lol
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03-16-11, 03:37 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
Wow hasn't this topic of bashing noobies been beaten to death in this forum already? If someone is posting certain comments you can immediately get an idea of their experience level. Knowing they have virtually no experience you have to assume they ALSO don't realize exactly how "uneducated" they sound to a veteran herper.
If you can keep your temper, the best thing is to try to calmly explain to them to back up a few steps and not get the snake yet, give it back, etc. Sometimes sarcasm and jokes are a way of NOT saying something blatantly rude like "hey idiot, you are stupid, take your snake back" or whatever, so take what you can get! A sarcastic comment isn't the worst thing that could be said in this thread.
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03-16-11, 10:53 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
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Originally Posted by percey39
Cheers mate! I knew that hooking would be best off, but i hook and tail all my animals except my adders as those guys can quite easily swing back on themselves. I was of the understanding that most vipers can do the same?
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Hook and tail (do you mean at the same time?) would be fine with these fellas, they are slender bodied and ~4' or so. They only thrash when not supported, as I'm sure you are used to!
My experience with 'tailing' is very very limited, I've mostly kept arboreal pitvipers....you don't want to tail one of those.
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03-16-11, 07:21 PM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
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Originally Posted by BlindOne
Hook and tail (do you mean at the same time?) would be fine with these fellas, they are slender bodied and ~4' or so. They only thrash when not supported, as I'm sure you are used to!
My experience with 'tailing' is very very limited, I've mostly kept arboreal pitvipers....you don't want to tail one of those.
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Yeah thats what i mean mate. Cheers for the info, I have never dealt with a arboreal hot it would be very interesting!
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03-16-11, 11:29 PM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
Seems like some rules need to be laid down about noobs, hypersensitive individuals, and cynics. From what I've seen in this short time that I've been subscribed, the people who are "harsh" are the most experienced, the people who are hypersensitive, PC, frantic and cursing haven't been around long. It's time to remember that we aren't just talking about noob mistakes with husbandry for the animal. This person could potentially lose their life. That makes people nervous, understandably. Hots are not domesticated animals, they never will be. It is a matter to be taken seriously. If someone gets a harsh but cool and logical reprimand, is that so bad?
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03-16-11, 11:39 PM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
Also, It's important to remember that you should do some solid research before ordering an animal whether it is a hot or not. I spent a couple of months preparing for my first snake, and I plan on researching for my first arboreal for the next few months. I make it a rule to know all the basics and own some literature before I put money down.
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03-17-11, 05:35 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
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Originally Posted by emilybier
Seems like some rules need to be laid down about noobs, hypersensitive individuals, and cynics. From what I've seen in this short time that I've been subscribed, the people who are "harsh" are the most experienced, the people who are hypersensitive, PC, frantic and cursing haven't been around long. It's time to remember that we aren't just talking about noob mistakes with husbandry for the animal. This person could potentially lose their life. That makes people nervous, understandably. Hots are not domesticated animals, they never will be. It is a matter to be taken seriously. If someone gets a harsh but cool and logical reprimand, is that so bad?
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Well put and just to add - NO reptile will ever be domesticated like a dog or cat - these are WILD animals that tolerate us messing them around (if we are lucky). It should be considered a privelege to be able to look after let alone handle any of these majestic animals (i am NOT suggesting handling hots tho!!!)
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03-17-11, 11:19 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
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Originally Posted by Lankyrob
Well put and just to add - NO reptile will ever be domesticated like a dog or cat - these are WILD animals that tolerate us messing them around (if we are lucky)
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I think that's what I like the most about keeping snakes and tarantulas, you are -at best- tolerated.
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03-17-11, 11:28 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
Actually according to the book "**** My Dad Says" we all do in fact reserve this right. It's suggested we,as people, shouldn't use that right often.
I disagree with that statement.
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this made me luagh
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03-18-11, 02:17 AM
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Re: Starting with venomous snake
people dont give harsh replies to people that genuinly want to learn.... When I first came on here I got no nasty comments or abuse.. Just plenty of advice with my brb setup lol l. X
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