Randy is a good guys, we are all friends with him here, its just the topic is so heated its was just turning into a problem, it got derailed, no one here can help him with the question, so trying a differnent forum which will have actuall answere for him vrs just a dog fight about that specific heated topic, im sure randy understands as i have been conversing with him on a different thread after the one being closed for good reason. all is good in the end