The cheeky hillbilly is right
J.R., if this is going to degenerate into an argument I`ll just stop posting, lets just understand that here. Listen very carefully ok, if if don`t understand it when I tell you very carefully, then you`ll never understand and I can only put that down to your tender years. I love helping people with thier new found snake hobby. What I don`t like is being treated with disrespect or utter contempt. My mention of tha fact we do this for free is merley an attemot to make you understand just what you have.I have tried, in vain, to explain this before to people that treat us disrespectfully. You have our years of experience and full attention to draw on, you don`t have to pay us, WE ARE ALL MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT FOR FREE. But (and here`s my point, pay attention...) But, why would we wish to continue doing it if we are constantly faced with this attitude? Why would we sit up at all hours helping people with thier problems and explaining to them how to do things properly if we just get spoken to the way you are starting to talk now? Why would anyone want to put up with that? That makes us want to say well you know what? Sod it I can`t be arsed helping an ungrateful, cheeky, argumentative, disrespectful person. But then you have to also understand that that in itself puts us in a VERY difficult situation because at the end of the day, when it comes down to it, it`s not YOU that we care about. It`s the snake you have put yourself in charge of. We see people doing all sorts of silly things with snakes because they just don`t know any better. We try to help out, we are actually ASKED to help out, but if they don`t want to hear "fish tanks are VERY bad for snakes" because they just don`t want to buy a proper VIVARIUM (ESSENTIAL FOR SNAKES) They are just rude, or they just ignore us BUT THEN continue to expect us to help with other things!! Well that just drives us up the bloody wall when we know from the experience we have over the years, that a fish tank is VERY bad for snakes. Fish tanks are for fish. Snakes need a VIVARIUM. J.R..... Mate, please, pretty please with sugar on top, just try to understand that. Put all your annoyances aside, all your presumtions about our motives aside, and understand that we only care about the care and wellbeing of captive snakes and the sort of attitudes we encounter all too often in our collective quest to educate and inform really don`t help matters at all. That is why this thread was started. It was unfortunatly started to inform my fellow experienced herper friends that I have had enough of being treated like crap, I have had enough of arguing! I have had enough of trying to compete with the attitudes of some of the new keepers that only care about themselves and not the poor snake who`s very life depends on thier decision making! If you can`t see my point mate after the reams and reams of text in this thread explaining it time and again in simpler and simpler terms, you never will. This thread isn`t for you to come in and start telling me what I should and shouldn`t be feeling anyway mate to be honest. I`ve started it to say i`ve had enough of arguing and failing to get through to people that just don`t want to listen, and here I am, in that very thread, arguing with someone that doen`t want to listen! I give up mate, I no longer care what you do. I`ve been foolish to spend so much of my precious time trying to help and being treated like sh*t anyway. Do what you want, keep it in a fish tank, keep it in an old fuel tank, whatever you want. I no longer argue with lost causes such as people that refuse to get a snake out of a fish tank. You can all learn the hard way just as kids need to learn the hard way, it`s just such a terrible shame that snakes need to suffer because so many new keepers refuse to listen to experience when entering the hobby. I give up arguing with that sort of ignorance and I give up arguing with you. There`s another lesson in life, never argue with the ignorant, they`ll drag you down to thier own level and beat you on experience.