Freshwater Stingrays

[C3ntury]

For reference purposes, Potamotrygon spp. can certainly be housed with a variety of fish spp. (piranha included) and still able to grow/breed. They are fairly tolerant of water parameters as well; Stability is key. IME the reason for the "mythinformation" of difficulty in care is:

Lack of diligence.
Illegal status in many states leads to presumptions of difficulty status.

[The Snake Guru]

Originally Posted by C3ntury

For reference purposes, Potamotrygon spp. can certainly be housed with a variety of fish spp. (piranha included) and still able to grow/breed. They are fairly tolerant of water parameters as well; Stability is key. IME the reason for the "mythinformation" of difficulty in care is:

Lack of diligence.
Illegal status in many states leads to presumptions of difficulty status.

That by far is the stupidist thing I have ever heard. You realize of course that Piranha are predatory my nature? And while they may in the wild exist in the same riverine conditions.....this by no means what so ever says that should or even could replicate this a home aquarium.

Lack of Diligence pretty much will kill anything in captivity.

Illegal in some states....highly possible.

Housing with other species....yes possible.....I had these 3 housed with Redhooks with no issues. But Piranha......that's just completely and utterly idiotic.



~B~

[C3ntury]

I am fully aware of piranha husbandry and the misinformation attached to their status. I am also fully aware that the majority of piranha species are skittish by nature and would rather not attack anything outright. Domestic counterparts often do not assume such predatory demeanors such as in the wild; however, there are many variables as to why that I won't even bother covering. If this indeed is unreasonable to accomplish, do inform the many aquariums and zoological societies that have already accomplished this feet in aquaria. My statement was not to emphasize that Potamotrygon spp. can always be housed with piranha, but rather that it is possible, has been done, and more-so that there are numerous fish spp. that can co-habitate with Potamotrygon spp. This is fact. In conclusion, I was merely trying to provide corrective information to the thread, but apparently you know all there is *rolls eyes.* By the way, even for a smaller sp. of Potamotrygon, your aquarium size is still not adequate for reliable long-term rearing/breeding. Knowing all that you do, you should have realized this *double eye roll.* Enjoy your night and not to worry, I won't bother you by responding to your thread any longer

[The Snake Guru]

Originally Posted by C3ntury

I am fully aware of piranha husbandry and the misinformation attached to their status. I am also fully aware that the majority of piranha species are skittish by nature and would rather not attack anything outright. Domestic counterparts often do not assume such predatory demeanors such as in the wild; however, there are many variables as to why that I won't even bother covering. If this indeed is unreasonable to accomplish, do inform the many aquariums and zoological societies that have already accomplished this feet in aquaria. My statement was not to emphasize that Potamotrygon spp. can always be housed with piranha, but rather that it is possible, has been done, and more-so that there are numerous fish spp. that can co-habitate with Potamotrygon spp. This is fact. In conclusion, I was merely trying to provide corrective information to the thread, but apparently you know all there is *rolls eyes.* By the way, even for a smaller sp. of Potamotrygon, your aquarium size is still not adequate for reliable long-term rearing/breeding. Knowing all that you do, you should have realized this *double eye roll.* Enjoy your night and not to worry, I won't bother you by responding to your thread any longer

Well being as fully aware of those facts, you also know that some of the species of which have pointed a vague and general reference towards are also not that readily available to the general public.

And the big difference between the home aquarium and zoological aquriums is ohhhh about 1,000 gallons give or take.....as I already stated; possible it may be but not in a "normal" household, nor with some of the more commonly available piranha species.

I don't know everything, but I do know that the stingrays are hard enough to keep the way it is due to water quality and feeding practices...kept with too aggressive of a species they will eventually starve to death due to the other fish jumping in feeding before them.

All that said....ehhhh whatever man, you want throw some $50+ stingrays in with some $3.00 Piranha....have it! Should make for an interesting show....give me call when you've actually done it and had running for a good few years succesfully.....otherwise don't pretend to preach to me about how they should or shouldn't be kept because you saw it in a zoo.

~B~