HELP: Stuck shed

[MnGuy]

Originally Posted by craigafrechette

I'm still not getting it. How does a snake get stuck under newspaper???
And was it just a typo or brain fart or are you mistaking a thermometer with a thermostat. (You said "thermometer"). They're very different things and I don't know how a properly regulated heat mat could cause damage. That's the whole purpose of the thermostat.

P.S. I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I'm genuinely trying to understand

She was a tiny baby. She slithered under the newspaper, got flipped upside down and was stuck underneath it. There was a hot hide, a cool hide, a water bowl and a plastic plant in there. Somehow the collection of everything on the paper made it too tight for her to get out.

How hard is that to understand? I'm not the snake. I wasn't there. I don't know why she was unable to get back out if she was able to get under there to begin with.

After worrying about her I broke down her cage and found her flipped upside down underneath the newspaper on top of where the heat mat was applied. She was stuck there for at least a full day.

The heat mat was properly regulated with a thermostat. That didn't matter because she was TRAPPED 24/7 on top of the heat mat. Snakes don't stay on their heat mat or under their basking light 24/7.

She was a baby. She was the size of a large worm.

PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME EXPLAIN THIS AGAIN.

[craigafrechette]

Originally Posted by MnGuy

How hard is that to understand?

Snakes don't stay on their heat mat or under their basking light 24/7.


PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME EXPLAIN THIS AGAIN.

Actually, snakes DO stay on their hot spot 24/7... ALL THE TIME... Whenever digesting and often while in shed, both of which take days or sometimes over a week. All of my snakes through 15+ years have spent consecutive days hidden on their hot spot, most every feeding that's where they digest 24/7.

And guess what? Never a single burn or injury. Why? Because my heat mats are properly regulated.

What so hard to understand is how a properly regulated heat mat can injure or burn a snake. If properly set, your hot spot should be no higher than 90°, probably lower for garters.... 90° CAN NOT physically burn a snake. It's not possible. Your hands are warmer than 90°, but your hands aren't capable of producing a burn. See where I'm going with this???


But don't worry, you don't need to explain again.

[MnGuy]

Originally Posted by craigafrechette

Actually, snakes DO stay on their hot spot 24/7... ALL THE TIME... Whenever digesting and often while in shed, both of which take days or sometimes over a week. All of my snakes through 15+ years have spent consecutive days hidden on their hot spot, most every feeding that's where they digest 24/7.

And guess what? Never a single burn or injury. Why? Because my heat mats are properly regulated.

What so hard to understand is how a properly regulated heat mat can injure or burn a snake. If properly set, your hot spot should be no higher than 90°, probably lower for garters.... 90° CAN NOT physically burn a snake. It's not possible. Your hands are warmer than 90°, but your hands aren't capable of producing a burn. See where I'm going with this???


But don't worry, you don't need to explain again.

OK, you just believe whatever you want. I don't know why you want to be argumentative for the sake of it.

I don't know what you keep, but my snakes have never stayed motionless in ONE spot 24/7 underneath their basking light, or before that, on top of their heat mat. Garters are highly active snakes that are out and about several hours of the day. They don't hide like ball pythons or other snakes.

She was stuck on the glass on top of the heat mat. She was not sitting on top of the newspaper. The heat mat was regulated with a thermometer and never went above 85 degrees.

Body temperature is not the same thing as a heat source like a heat mat. That is not even an accurate analogy.