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Old 06-22-17, 01:18 PM   #1
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Re: Young Boa regurgitated

Hmm, I can't find it now. It was from the U.K. I know that. Seems to be quite a large percentage of snake lovers there. I never really have gone by the book when it comes to snakes or my wolfdogs because I believe they are all different. Take mites for instance. I would never buy any topical remedy. I've cured all my snakes in the past with small sections of "No-pest" strips placed in small containers and placed in their cages for 2 or 3 hrs. at a time until they are eradicated. Unlike topical solutions, it permeates every nook and cranny including under the snakes scales. With careful use, it is 100% effective. Brand name, Vapona Strips. Can be bought on Amazon for 4 or 5 dollars. Best to remove the water when using this method. And it can kill if used too long.
But he's doing great. I appreciate any advice I receive. Doesn't mean I'll follow it, but I keep an open mind.
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Just a follow up on my Boa. I disregarded advise and fed him three days after he regurgitated. No problems. I read a scientific study which stated that snakes only secrete gastric juices when they have eaten. It does not need a 2 or 3 week waiting period to replenish gut flora. Also I do not agree with the feeding schedule I was advised to follow. He's a baby and from what I've read they can eat every 5 to 7 days and not be considered "Powerfed". I did take the advice on getting a thermostat and a temperature gauge though. Just my experience. I don't profess to be an expert.
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I've owned many snakes when I was younger. meaning in the early 80's and never had a problem other than mites which I easily took care of with very careful use of No-Pest, Vapona strips. But I won't get into mites as that's not my issue now. I bought a baby red-tail on 3-5-17 and everything was fine at first. Ate well. No mites. I have state of the art equipment now. Back in the day, I never paid much attention to humidity or temps and all my adult snakes thrived. Boa's, Burmese, Retics, even a Rock python. I don't recommend those btw. So now I buy a seemingly health baby red-tail and do everything by the book and its not shedding properly and regurgitated its last mouse. It did eat it tail first but that's not uncommon. So I'm wondering if I just bought an unhealthy snake or am I just being too impatient?
If I could do it over, I would have gotten an adult. Anyone have any experience with regurgitation? Prey was same as usual. Warm and not too big. He regurgitated it over 24 hours later but it seemed hardly digested. Just wet.
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Hmm, I can't find it now. It was from the U.K. I know that. Seems to be quite a large percentage of snake lovers there. I never really have gone by the book when it comes to snakes or my wolfdogs because I believe they are all different. Take mites for instance. I would never buy any topical remedy. I've cured all my snakes in the past with small sections of "No-pest" strips placed in small containers and placed in their cages for 2 or 3 hrs. at a time until they are eradicated. Unlike topical solutions, it permeates every nook and cranny including under the snakes scales. With careful use, it is 100% effective. Brand name, Vapona Strips. Can be bought on Amazon for 4 or 5 dollars. Best to remove the water when using this method. And it can kill if used too long.
But he's doing great. I appreciate any advice I receive. Doesn't mean I'll follow it, but I keep an open mind.
You kept snakes in the 1980's. Almost 40 plus years ago. A lot has changed since then in the reptile world. I'm sure you've noticed when you went to buy housing supplies and what not.

I want to restate that vapona is no longer looked at as a mite treatment due to it's poison amount. Reason I mention this is to hopefully open you up that things change and there's better ways to do things than we did before.
Yes your animals lived in the 80's with vapona but you didn't mention the 90s. The species you kept were long lived so do you know how long until they died? Maybe they had lasting effects from the poison without you knowing.

Anyway I'm off topic. I think you were fine in offering food to your animal shortly after regurge. That knowledge has been around for a little bit but there's a lot of push back on it. I personally wouldn't attempt until next feeding day because I'm not going out of my way for one animal to eat but it's fine.

As for feeding frequency. You definitely are powerfeeding at every 4 days for a boa. Yup there's lots of people who say it isn't but it is. My recommendation is every 7 - 10 days with a smaller meal than you would have offered in the 80s.
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Old 06-22-17, 06:59 PM   #3
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Thanks for all the info. I appreciate the time you all took to respond. He's never had mites but I will think twice about using Vapona if he ever gets them. As for feeding I will cut him back to a small fuzzy every 7 to 10 days. I haven't been feeding him too large a prey and he certainly doesn't look fat but I don't want him to be so I'll make it a point to wait.
My problem is that after 4 or 5 days he gets into that feeding position and I have this tendency to think, Well, O.K. he's hungry. So I have to remember he's a snake and not a dog. Self-restraint on my part is in order. I want him to live a long healthy life. I'm not sure what became of the snakes I once had. I had to sell them all when I joined the military. Once again, thank you all for the good advice.
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