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11-11-14, 01:00 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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hey emma...you've heard the saying "there's an easy way and there's a hard way", right? i think that's all we are saying. you feed in another enclosure (and a lot of people do), it's just another unnecessary step. end result is the same = fed snake. just extra steps. sometimes included in those extra steps are more opportunities for contact with teeth. maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. if you're ok with those odds, then enjoy the extra effort.
similarly, i think at some point we have all draped a snake around our necks. 99.99999% nothing will happen. but (as you found out) there is a potential for something bad (and it could've been catastrophic if your snake actually bit your eye). i know that the likelihood is prob low, but personally, i don't wanna lose an eye. i don't want sutures on the face. so, i direct my snake's head away from my head when they are out of their enclosure. i don't multi-task with a roaming snake head close to my face.
sometimes the way we do things may not be wrong per se, but often our husbandry/habits/etc, could be fine tuned. i've received tons of info from members here that has positively impacted how i care for and handle my animals and i've kept snakes for well over 30 yrs. don't view it as an attack, simply look at it as "there may be an easier way"...
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I totally get that and thank you for the concern, my point in all of this is that I didn't post these photos to get lessons, to get taught how to take care or handle or not get bit by my snakes..I posted these photos for fun its just a photo...Im ok with being bitten by my snakes..if anything..I like the feeling.
But, they way I care for my snakes...Im happy with it. I didnt need lectures haha just wanted to post a photo..If I need help I ask for it ..If you guys want to help me so bad go check out my other post where I found a lump on my snake and wasnt sure what it was..I dont know if the way I write sounds rude but im not trying to be rude..I really appreciate the effort its just not what I posted these pics for
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11-11-14, 01:02 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792
When it comes to husbandry, it's okay for more experienced people to criticize your practices. It's not just you involved, but also your animals.
Besides, no one is telling you not to feed in a separate enclosure, so don't take it as people telling you what to do. They are just explaining how there is no point in feeding outside the enclosure. "That's bad" and "don't do it" are two different things.
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I just posted the reason im getting so defensive please read that..
its just a photo everyone.
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11-11-14, 01:06 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by SSSSnakes
A bite to the face with a snake around your neck, means you don't understand snakes. Snakes naturally strike at the face, because they have a natural instinct to stop the prey from fighting back. If the prey is grabbed by the face it prevents the prey from biting the snake. If you have a defensive snake like a tree snake it will zero in on your face and wait for the right time to strike at you. A spitting cobra will not spit venom at your body, it waits until it has a shot at your face.
People our offering advise, you can learn from them or you can let yourself be bit again. When we were young we all thought we knew it all, until we gained experience and found out how little we really knew.
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Okay well clearly your just trying to act like you know everything about snakes and good for you..but I DONT need that advice..do not tell me I dont understand snakes you have no reason to say that too me. Out of everyone on this thread you are the only one desperately trying to be the better one and trying to lower me. Well congratulations good for you. People are offering me advice I dont need. And I didnt ask for..I just wanted to post a photo I do NOT mind getting bit by my snakes!!!!
If I want to keep my snake around my neck then I can. Its a risk of getting bit but thats my personal problem im not harming my snake...
I would appreciate it if you stop finding another BS reason to "give me advice" If you dont want to see the photos or other peoples. then goodbye
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11-11-14, 01:10 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
PSA: IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH MY PHOTOS, LEAVE THE THREAD..DO NOT TRY TO JUDGE PEOPLES HUSBANDRY. Just let it go, and accept it. I am a very open person..when I need help I ask, and in the future I guarantee you will see my posting for advice or help.
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11-11-14, 06:48 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
This is an open forum and when you post something that people have issues with, then maybe you should stop responding to this thread.
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11-12-14, 12:23 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by Emmamuradian
I don't feed them out of the cage just so they don't bite me any other time I reach in. Its become a habit and i'm happy with the way I feed them..I don't have to feed them in their cages...
ok, I don't know why people aren't reading my scenarios correctly, my snake wasn't in shed when she was around my neck, I was just changing her water.
My SECOND photo she got out of shed so i was about to feed her. I never handle them when they are in shed...I didn't post these photos to get a lesson on taking care of my snakes. If I need advice I ask for it.
and for that comment "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" thats also a little harsh. read carefully and understand that i'm not trying to be cool here lol. Its just a photo. Damn.
I'm not trying to be rude but its a little disrespectful to me because I'm not doing anything wrong and everyone is assuming I am.
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You said that she was in shed during the time she was supposed to be in fed, so I naturally assumed she was in shed. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Still, snakes have the strongest feeding response right out shed (at least in my experience), and they also just got out of a stressful period of time so bites can be more likely as they're still getting out of that mindset. It's also not about whether or not you care about getting bit by your snakes, it's about what a thread like the one you originally had in mind would reflect on our hobby. I don't really care whether or not you mind being bit, that's not pertinent. It's about whether or not law makers could latch onto this to further their anti-exotics agenda, or parents just thinking they're dangerous monsters. I do think that precautions should be taken to minimize bites, however, where possible.
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Originally Posted by SSSSnakes
This is an open forum and when you post something that people have issues with, then maybe you should stop responding to this thread.
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11-12-14, 03:39 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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This is an open forum and when you post something that people have issues with, then maybe you should stop responding to this thread.
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Why would I not respond to a thread I started? Its time you stop.
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11-12-14, 03:45 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
[QUOTE=bigsnakegirl785;940152]You said that she was in shed during the time she was supposed to be in fed, so I naturally assumed she was in shed. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Still, snakes have the strongest feeding response right out shed (at least in my experience), and they also just got out of a stressful period of time so bites can be more likely as they're still getting out of that mindset. It's also not about whether or not you care about getting bit by your snakes, it's about what a thread like the one you originally had in mind would reflect on our hobby. I don't really care whether or not you mind being bit, that's not pertinent. It's about whether or not law makers could latch onto this to further their anti-exotics agenda, or parents just thinking they're dangerous monsters. I do think that precautions should be taken to minimize bites, however, where possible.
Its okay, that was for my second photo.. these photos are 2 months apart. During the eye bite she was nowhere near shed.
Yes but if this is an open thread I should be able to post what I want..im just posting photos..How come its ok for others to post snake bites for example bhb..yeah they talk about what to do when being bit or preventing it or whatever..but its still showing the bites..Its not murder I can post it if I want people dont need to get offended..If people wanted to turn it into a thread about experiences of getting bitten and teaching about it..I wouldn't mind.. as long as people dont go assuming things acting like they know the scenario.
It would be right to ASK "hey what happened here I can tell you what went wrong"... not "these are beginner mistakes" Im not stupid.
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11-12-14, 05:55 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by Emmamuradian
Why would I not respond to a thread I started? Its time you stop.
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I will respond to open threads until the message get a crossed. Many people have issues with this thread, that should tell you there is something wrong with what you are doing here. This forum's members are, for the most part, are responsible keepers that are looking to not give law makers any more reasons to limit us. They also are looking out for the best care for the snake. A bite from a snake can injure the snake by having teeth break off and causing an infection. Also a snake bite can cause an infection in a person.
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11-12-14, 07:52 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785
it's about what a thread like the one you originally had in mind would reflect on our hobby.It's about whether or not law makers could latch onto this to further their anti-exotics agenda, or parents just thinking they're dangerous monsters. I do think that precautions should be taken to minimize bites, however, where possible.
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Just saw this being passed around FB and thought it was relevant to this post
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Just a reminder for NY herpers...I've seen quite a few photos of small children holding herps...
The New York DEC passed a law that it is a felony for the owner of a reptile or exotic pet if someone gets bitten/injured by said animal. This law can be interpreted as the owner and your children if it is (manditorily) reported by your physician, school nurse, teacher the kid tells the story to....even if the animal is the child's own pet, parents are the supervisory adults. This felony charge includes jail time...so be careful, and be careful of what photos and stories you post.
The species doesn't matter...under the law there is no difference in danger between a baby ball python, beardie, leopard gecko, or a 12 foot 60 lb burmese python. Your state government is run by total morons {SURPRISE!}.
Now that DEC has officially labelled reptiles 'dangerous animals', these will also be things that CPS will look for in the home to determine safety of a child in the home.
Cage locks, separate locked room won't matter to them.
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11-12-14, 08:15 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792
Just saw this being passed around FB and thought it was relevant to this post
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Just a reminder for NY herpers...I've seen quite a few photos of small children holding herps...
The New York DEC passed a law that it is a felony for the owner of a reptile or exotic pet if someone gets bitten/injured by said animal. This law can be interpreted as the owner and your children if it is (manditorily) reported by your physician, school nurse, teacher the kid tells the story to....even if the animal is the child's own pet, parents are the supervisory adults. This felony charge includes jail time...so be careful, and be careful of what photos and stories you post.
The species doesn't matter...under the law there is no difference in danger between a baby ball python, beardie, leopard gecko, or a 12 foot 60 lb burmese python. Your state government is run by total morons {SURPRISE!}.
Now that DEC has officially labelled reptiles 'dangerous animals', these will also be things that CPS will look for in the home to determine safety of a child in the home.
Cage locks, separate locked room won't matter to them.
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Rofl, NY has been on the cutting edge of governmental stupidity for quite some time now. BEWARE THE KILLER GECKOS!!! Who the hell is voting for these idiots?
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11-12-14, 08:37 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
The unfortunate situation new York finds itself in, is that the overwhelming majority of the population lives in new York City. So in essence, one city controls the state. I feel sorry for those living outside the city. I can only imagine how frustrating it could be.
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11-12-14, 08:46 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by IW17
The unfortunate situation new York finds itself in, is that the overwhelming majority of the population lives in new York City. So in essence, one city controls the state. I feel sorry for those living outside the city. I can only imagine how frustrating it could be.
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Yup, LI'er here.
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11-12-14, 10:18 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792
Just saw this being passed around FB and thought it was relevant to this post
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Just a reminder for NY herpers...I've seen quite a few photos of small children holding herps...
The New York DEC passed a law that it is a felony for the owner of a reptile or exotic pet if someone gets bitten/injured by said animal. This law can be interpreted as the owner and your children if it is (manditorily) reported by your physician, school nurse, teacher the kid tells the story to....even if the animal is the child's own pet, parents are the supervisory adults. This felony charge includes jail time...so be careful, and be careful of what photos and stories you post.
The species doesn't matter...under the law there is no difference in danger between a baby ball python, beardie, leopard gecko, or a 12 foot 60 lb burmese python. Your state government is run by total morons {SURPRISE!}.
Now that DEC has officially labelled reptiles 'dangerous animals', these will also be things that CPS will look for in the home to determine safety of a child in the home.
Cage locks, separate locked room won't matter to them.
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Jeez, that's just ridiculous. But not all that surprising, sadly. It's even more ridiculous that it's a felony of all things.
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11-12-14, 10:27 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Who the hell is voting for these idiots?
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But..but...it's for the children!!!!!
Everybody is for "feel good" legislation, until they actually take the time to thoughtfully try to understand it...but by then, it's to late to realize what a dog turd of a law was just foisted upon the populace.
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