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Old 10-09-12, 05:39 PM   #1
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Re: Hognose Regurgitated What do I Do?!

I understand Gregg.......Maybe one day I will get me a couple hoggies.......If I can get over their keeled loose skin and stumpy little bodies.....J/K....lol
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Old 10-09-12, 06:54 PM   #2
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I understand Gregg.......Maybe one day I will get me a couple hoggies.......If I can get over their keeled loose skin and stumpy little bodies.....J/K....lol
LOL. They can grow on you man...
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well sorry to jump in there j..chalk it up to me being a crappy, sick, girly girl today lol
i get what you're saying now about the conditions : )
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No biggie jaleely......I apologize as well.

You're a bright girl.....keep it up!

I can't wait to see what you produce with those 22 snakes you have.....If you plan on breeding them.
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lol oooh i do! All the ones i plan to, are too young right now, but in about two years.. i'm going to be a grandmammy.
Dumerils boas, hognose, 4 different kinds of sand boa, and garter : ) The rest are just loners or no desire to breed them.
Live bearers and eggs, so we'll see how I do and go from there! lol

And thanks
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Good luck.....
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Hi everyone thanks for your interest and responses.

So just so I'm clear, is my husbandry okay?
---100*F basking spot SURFACE temperature
---84*F surface temp of aspen at cool end
---15 gallon tank with screen lid
---humid hide under the light consisting of Tupperware container with coconut fiber
---3 inches of aspen
---soaking bowl on cool side on top of aspen

Also, I haven't seen him since the regurge. He's in my reptile room which is a low traffic area. I haven't found hides for him yet. I haven't handled him since Friday (the day I fed).

I want to try feeding him a F/T pinky tonight. What do you think?
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Old 12-16-12, 10:29 PM   #8
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Just my 2 cents. A snakes stomach acid is very caustic and ive read in several books and articles, that when a snake regurgitates this acid does cause a degree of damage coming up which is the reason for waiting about a week before feeding again. The reasoning would be that if the snake immediately feeds again or feeds too soon after regurgitating then they have a higher risk for repeated regurgitation due to the irritation. By waiting your are giving time for the damage to heal.

Now many times a snake may eat again with no issues, or may eat their regurgitated meal. However a regurgitated meal that has been in the stomach for a few hours will be less damaging than one 24 hours later due to the amount of acid building up. It takes about 6 hours for the stomach acid to become really acidic. So maybe a snake could eat... regurge before too much acid is produced... and immediately eat again with no apparent problem.

I had a corn regurgitate after about 24 hours... worst smell ever. He was a voracious eater and I mistakenly overfed him thinking he needed more. Well I offered food every 7 days and he didnt eat for a month. I Finally got him to take a pinky and worked my way up from there.

So that is my rationale on why it is generally recommended to wait to feed after a snake has regurgitated based on research from books and information obtained from books, breeders, and the good old discovery channel. And of course my one regurge experience in 10 years of snake keeping.


In reference to hognoses gregg... perhaps because their metabolisms are faster and their meals smaller, they heal faster or don't suffer as much damage... perhaps that's why youve had no problem? I would assume larger breeds that take several days to digest would have a lot more issues when compared to a small breed like the western hognose.
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Im sorry I did not realize how old this thread was. I just got so interested reading that I wanted to throw my bit in! Im trying to learn as much as I can about the different husbandry required of the western hognose and found this topic intetesting.... didnt realize its two months old.
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Im sorry I did not realize how old this thread was. I just got so interested reading that I wanted to throw my bit in! Im trying to learn as much as I can about the different husbandry required of the western hognose and found this topic intetesting.... didnt realize its two months old.
Nothing wrong with diggin up old threads to add some useful information. Even if it does not agree with what I am posting. LOL...
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Nothing wrong with diggin up old threads to add some useful information. Even if it does not agree with what I am posting. LOL...
I wasn't disagreeing, I was just trying to sort out all the info that I know about regurge and relate it to the hognose.
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