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11-07-14, 01:40 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
First set of picture shows an inexperienced keeper allowing a snake near their face. A snake that small you had to hold the snake by your face to get bit.
Second set of pics is a hungry snake striking for food. If it was not a hunger bite, the snake would not have hung on after the bite and wrapped.
No disrespect intended, but both are beginner mistakes and not something to be proud of. As mentioned if this were a thread about what not to do, it would be appropriate. Keep snakes wekk fed and never put a snake near your face, (snakes have a natural instinct to strike at the face).
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11-07-14, 02:37 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by SSSSnakes
First set of picture shows an inexperienced keeper allowing a snake near their face. A snake that small you had to hold the snake by your face to get bit.
Second set of pics is a hungry snake striking for food. If it was not a hunger bite, the snake would not have hung on after the bite and wrapped.
No disrespect intended, but both are beginner mistakes and not something to be proud of. As mentioned if this were a thread about what not to do, it would be appropriate. Keep snakes wekk fed and never put a snake near your face, (snakes have a natural instinct to strike at the face).
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This is exactly what I thought when I saw the first and second picture. They're beginer mistakes and they happen, but posting a thread and making it sound like a good thing is not the right idea.
Emmamuradian, the reason we're condemning these is because this is only something that would happen to a newbie, which is fine, but shouldn't be sported as "normal" behavior. Balls are remarkably calm, so the fact that she latched on to you tells me she's very hungry, maybe offer larger food sizes? If you don't know, they should be roughly 1 1/2 the size of the thickest part of the snake, done every 5-7/7-10 days depending on age. If you do know, then it shouldn't have happened in the fist place because that snake has no reason to hold on to you like that because you aren't food, but it's her only way of telling you.
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11-07-14, 03:22 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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that snake has no reason to hold on to you like that because you aren't food, but it's her only way of telling you.
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I wonder if I bite and hold on to my wife, if she'll get the hint I want more food. LOL
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11-07-14, 04:33 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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I wonder if I bite and hold on to my wife, if she'll get the hint I want more food. LOL
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I imagine you'd get hit, not fed, but please try and tell me how it turns out!
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11-10-14, 04:10 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by SSSSnakes
First set of picture shows an inexperienced keeper allowing a snake near their face. A snake that small you had to hold the snake by your face to get bit.
Second set of pics is a hungry snake striking for food. If it was not a hunger bite, the snake would not have hung on after the bite and wrapped.
No disrespect intended, but both are beginner mistakes and not something to be proud of. As mentioned if this were a thread about what not to do, it would be appropriate. Keep snakes wekk fed and never put a snake near your face, (snakes have a natural instinct to strike at the face).
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Woah! okay I had no intention of turning this into a negative post...
first of of all, my first picture has nothing to do with being inexperienced...I understand you don't mean any disrespect but you did not have to be rude and bash on me just because you were assuming my "mistakes" are "beginner mistakes". My snake was around my neck while i was changing her water, she came near my eye so I closed my eye..then i'm assuming my eyelashes confused her and/or made her sort of twitch and she just bit me eye. And no she was not hungry during that time..
for my second bite, I do not starve my snakes. I feed them every 5-7 days. She was in shed during the time i was supposed to feed her, I personally don't like feeding my snakes during shed so yes you can say she was probably hungry that day. That photo was taken 5 minuted before i fed her.
I appreciate your concern, but you shouldn't go around assuming things. You can always ask the person.
Everyone knows snakes bite, me posting a photo of my snake biting me isn't going to shock the world and make everyone find out that snakes bite. lol.
For some reason I like to see snake bites, I think they're cute when they bite. Big deal. I figured i wasn't the only person but apparently I am lol.
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11-10-14, 07:14 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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woah! Okay i had no intention of turning this into a negative post...
First of of all, my first picture has nothing to do with being inexperienced...i understand you don't mean any disrespect but you did not have to be rude and bash on me just because you were assuming my "mistakes" are "beginner mistakes". My snake was around my neck
having a snake around your neck, is a beginners mistake.
for my second bite, i do not starve my snakes. I feed them every 5-7 days. She was in shed during the time i was supposed to feed her, i personally don't like feeding my snakes during shed so yes you can say she was probably hungry that day. That photo was taken 5 minuted before i fed her.
I appreciate your concern, but you shouldn't go around assuming things. You can always ask the person.
Lol.
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i never said you starve your snake. I said that was a hunger bite. You knowing the snake was hungry and still held it, was again a beginner mistake.
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11-10-14, 01:36 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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i never said you starve your snake. I said that was a hunger bite. You knowing the snake was hungry and still held it, was again a beginner mistake.
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once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
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11-10-14, 07:14 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Originally Posted by Emmamuradian
once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
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99% of experienced snake owners will tell you feeding outside of the enclosure is a beginner mistake. It teaches snakes to expect food when brought out. No one is jumping all over you. Just trying to explain how certain things can have a negative impact on our hobby. Snake bites happen. Even the most experienced snakeowners get bit. Which is why holding one in striking range of your face is a mistake.
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11-11-14, 02:38 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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99% of experienced snake owners will tell you feeding outside of the enclosure is a beginner mistake. It teaches snakes to expect food when brought out. No one is jumping all over you. Just trying to explain how certain things can have a negative impact on our hobby. Snake bites happen. Even the most experienced snakeowners get bit. Which is why holding one in striking range of your face is a mistake.
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Its not a mistake. It how I choose to feed them. I've been doing it since day one and i am used to it. Thats nobodys business but mine.. lol theres not mistake there. and I repeat once again she was on my neck I was't holding her in my face..Its also my choice to put my snake around my neck its not illegal and its not a mistake...if you think about it that way just holding a snake is a risk then. So I dont get why everyones trying to teach me a lesson lol
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11-11-14, 07:19 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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It how I choose to feed them. I've been doing it since day one and i am used to it. Thats nobodys business but mine..
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When it comes to husbandry, it's okay for more experienced people to criticize your practices. It's not just you involved, but also your animals.
Besides, no one is telling you not to feed in a separate enclosure, so don't take it as people telling you what to do. They are just explaining how there is no point in feeding outside the enclosure. "That's bad" and "don't do it" are two different things.
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11-10-14, 08:02 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
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Feeding inside the enclosure will do absolutely nothing to keep you from being bit, even from a feeding response bite. I feed all my snakes in their enclosures and I've been bitten enough times to count on one hand in the 8 years I've been keeping snakes. Excluding when I was feeding my boa constrictor outside the enclosure, when I got bit quite often. You do a lot of other stuff than open the enclosure doors to feed them (change water, pick up refuse, handle them, etc.), why would they only associate the doors opening with food?
Mistakes do happen, we're only human. But putting a snake in the middle of shed around your neck is a beginner mistake. I don't do that even with my ball python. If I handle them while they're in shed, it's to work their bedding, and they're either put into a bucket, or set on the ground or bed where I can watch them.
It's not about whether or not snakes bite, but how it's being portrayed. Saying snakes bite and you should take the proper precautions is quite different than "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" It just doesn't paint us in a very good light, as has been stated several times.
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11-11-14, 02:49 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Feeding inside the enclosure will do absolutely nothing to keep you from being bit, even from a feeding response bite. I feed all my snakes in their enclosures and I've been bitten enough times to count on one hand in the 8 years I've been keeping snakes. Excluding when I was feeding my boa constrictor outside the enclosure, when I got bit quite often. You do a lot of other stuff than open the enclosure doors to feed them (change water, pick up refuse, handle them, etc.), why would they only associate the doors opening with food?
Mistakes do happen, we're only human. But putting a snake in the middle of shed around your neck is a beginner mistake. I don't do that even with my ball python. If I handle them while they're in shed, it's to work their bedding, and they're either put into a bucket, or set on the ground or bed where I can watch them.
It's not about whether or not snakes bite, but how it's being portrayed. Saying snakes bite and you should take the proper precautions is quite different than "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" It just doesn't paint us in a very good light, as has been stated several times.
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I don't feed them out of the cage just so they don't bite me any other time I reach in. Its become a habit and i'm happy with the way I feed them..I don't have to feed them in their cages...
ok, I don't know why people aren't reading my scenarios correctly, my snake wasn't in shed when she was around my neck, I was just changing her water.
My SECOND photo she got out of shed so i was about to feed her. I never handle them when they are in shed...I didn't post these photos to get a lesson on taking care of my snakes. If I need advice I ask for it.
and for that comment "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" thats also a little harsh. read carefully and understand that i'm not trying to be cool here lol. Its just a photo. Damn.
I'm not trying to be rude but its a little disrespectful to me because I'm not doing anything wrong and everyone is assuming I am.
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11-12-14, 12:23 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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I don't feed them out of the cage just so they don't bite me any other time I reach in. Its become a habit and i'm happy with the way I feed them..I don't have to feed them in their cages...
ok, I don't know why people aren't reading my scenarios correctly, my snake wasn't in shed when she was around my neck, I was just changing her water.
My SECOND photo she got out of shed so i was about to feed her. I never handle them when they are in shed...I didn't post these photos to get a lesson on taking care of my snakes. If I need advice I ask for it.
and for that comment "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" thats also a little harsh. read carefully and understand that i'm not trying to be cool here lol. Its just a photo. Damn.
I'm not trying to be rude but its a little disrespectful to me because I'm not doing anything wrong and everyone is assuming I am.
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You said that she was in shed during the time she was supposed to be in fed, so I naturally assumed she was in shed. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Still, snakes have the strongest feeding response right out shed (at least in my experience), and they also just got out of a stressful period of time so bites can be more likely as they're still getting out of that mindset. It's also not about whether or not you care about getting bit by your snakes, it's about what a thread like the one you originally had in mind would reflect on our hobby. I don't really care whether or not you mind being bit, that's not pertinent. It's about whether or not law makers could latch onto this to further their anti-exotics agenda, or parents just thinking they're dangerous monsters. I do think that precautions should be taken to minimize bites, however, where possible.
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This is an open forum and when you post something that people have issues with, then maybe you should stop responding to this thread.
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11-10-14, 08:34 PM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
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Unfortunately that is a beginner mistake right there. Feeding snakes inside their enclosure doesn't make them aggressive or "bitey."
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11-11-14, 02:58 AM
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Re: Post photos of your snake bites!
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Unfortunately that is a beginner mistake right there. Feeding snakes inside their enclosure doesn't make them aggressive or "bitey."
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read my previous post please
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