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Old 12-12-12, 05:26 PM   #11
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Re: 17ft Jampea Retic

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87 View Post
I think the argument is that though there is more of a margin of error with giants than lets say hots, the handler *should* be able to stay in control and be able to handle the animal properly regardless of the animal's cooperation since the consequences of doing so can include serious injury though in most cases unlethal.

If a hot keeper said "this is how you do it but sometimes the snake doesn't cooperate so I do it without the hook/ gloves/ etc," we would be inclined to call that person irresponsible.
The way you *should* handle hots is different from the way you *should* handle giants. Apples to oranges. On one hand, you've got an animal, typically smaller or more slender bodied that can be controlled with a hook while maintaining control of the tail to keep the dangerous end as far from you as possible. I want to see the same control techniques used on the big burms and retics, and I'm not talking the 8-10ft snakes, I want to see someone hook and tail a 16 footer.

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I feel that giant keepers should be held in the same regard, that the cooperation of the animahe's hold not be the determining factor for safe handling practices. Having multiple people in the room is (in my opinion) not a good enough reason to NOT hold the animal the way Travis is in the second picture.

I also noticed you only have ONE picture of a snake being held in this fashion which leads me to believe it is not the way snakes of this size are predominantly held, or at least photographed being held.
You mean with them draped over shoulders? That's because its the best way to get the most animal in the photo and still being able to comfortable support their weight.

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Lori makes exceptionally good points here.

I don't think things are blown too far out or proportion as there are two causes of death in relation to large boids. There may be outside factors in them but it still stands that deaths of humans have occured and that it can occur again.

I don't believe there would be a ban in place if everything was as hunky-dory as you're trying to lead us to believe DC.
I'm going to disagree about the legislation, the ban talks are ideologically founded not in a safety concern, but on a "these animals should stay in the wild" grounds and "they'll escape and destroy the environment" fears. The safety issue just happens to be something that they can use because it seems "logical".

Joe is the one wearing the DC shirt rocking the 'stache, I'm the one above wearing the USARK shirt. Just realized what you were talking about.
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