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RandyRhoads · 11-04-12, 10:18 PM

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I'm just going to pick this out of the posts and talk about it.
Agreed.
tit, and agreed.

Boobies.

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Now, as a person with horrible genetics, i'm not going to breed. Fair is fair.

I wish more people had this realization, but then WalMart would be a ghost town....

Trent · 11-04-12, 05:38 PM

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Oh....my.... I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. "That evil witch mother nature".....

Nature takes care of itself. You don't need to hold yourself to a higher standard than her. If people would even make it to that standard without surpasing it things would be just fine.

One of the best quotes I have read on here!

Revenant · 11-04-12, 05:41 PM

I also think you failed to notice the tongue-in-cheek nature of the evil witch mother nature statement. I hate the idea of 'mother nature' and so tend to be flippant about trying to embody the natural world in that way.

RandyRhoads · 11-04-12, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Revenant

I also think you failed to notice the tongue-in-cheek nature of the evil witch mother nature statement.

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I hope i'm misunderstanding what you mean here.... Please elaborate...

^^^^^^^^^^^

Revenant · 11-04-12, 05:54 PM

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Sorry, I think I expect people to understand my sarcastic tone whether or not I communicate it clearly, especially since I don't use a ton of smilies to show when I'm being facetious. Time to hire a proofreader.

RandyRhoads · 11-04-12, 06:00 PM

Embrace the smilies. Intonation and inflection are hard to "hear" in written statements...

Wildside · 11-04-12, 06:33 PM

At least the guy feeds his turtle right?

RandyRhoads · 11-04-12, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildside

At least the guy feeds his turtle right?

Ahahahaha

**Pareeeee** · 11-04-12, 09:32 PM

Wow, came back to see my post spurred a lot of controversial discussion. A lot of interesting takes on it.

Just so everyone knows - I was shocked when I initially saw it, and do not condone what the person did. You know he filmed it just so he could make a video to shock people with.

As for the whole nature debate, I understand that yes, this kind of stuff happens all the timein the wild, but I believe that we should not be the cause of it. Humans already cause enough damage as it is.

This person is lacking something called compassion, one emotion that is supposed to set us apart from animals. Compassion, that thing that makes you put an animal it out of its misery if it's suffering, like finding a dying animal on the road that's been hit by a car. Even though euthanasia is a terrible thing to have to perform, it's best for the animal if it's in pain.

I HATED having to euthanize some mice a while back, even though my method was quick and humane. I was afraid that I would make a mistake and I would actually cause the poor thing to suffer for a few seconds. (My hubby was actually amused by me, wandering around the house all upset trying to talk myself into doing it)

Why are there so many people who actually take joy in doing things like that? It's not natural to enjoy another creature's suffering.

Also, why do people get fines and go to jail for cruelty to say, DOGS or CATS but not for cruelty to mice, fish, reptiles, etc?

Anyway, I'm rambling and ranting and probably not making much sense, it's late and I'm tired, my brain is not working as well as it should.

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Originally Posted by Wildside

At least the guy feeds his turtle right?

^^^ This did make me lol.

Good night all.

PS: It would only be OK if the turtle would not eat anything other than live mice and was starving itself. I highly doubt this was the case.

RandyRhoads · 11-04-12, 09:53 PM

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Why are there so many people who actually take joy in doing things like that? It's not natural to enjoy another creature's suffering.

Also, why do people get fines and go to jail for cruelty to say, DOGS or CATS but not for cruelty to mice, fish, reptiles, etc?
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Something to think about. It's not natural to enjoy another creatures suffing? Why do so many Felines seem to enjoy playing with suffering prey in the wild? Where do you draw the line between insignificant life forms significant ones ? If a mosquito lands on you do you not swat it? If a mouse runs across your floor do you not try to step on it, or set traps to kill or possibly maim it?

Trollbie · 11-04-12, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRhoads

Something to think about. It's not natural to enjoy another creatures suffing? Why do so many Felines seem to enjoy playing with suffering prey in the wild? Where do you draw the line between insignificant life forms significant ones ? If a mosquito lands on you do you not swat it? If a mouse runs across your floor do you not try to step on it, or set traps to kill or possibly maim it?

I can't even kill a freaking cockroach despite the fact that I'm terrified of them...

**Pareeeee** · 11-04-12, 10:02 PM

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I can't even kill a freaking cockroach despite the fact that I'm terrified of them...

Haha. And people look at me weird when I grab a spider and let it go outside.

I KNOW I SAID I WAS GOING TO BED DON'T JUDGE ME

**Pareeeee** · 11-04-12, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRhoads

Something to think about. It's not natural to enjoy another creatures suffing? Why do so many Felines seem to enjoy playing with suffering prey in the wild? Where do you draw the line between insignificant life forms significant ones ? If a mosquito lands on you do you not swat it? If a mouse runs across your floor do you not try to step on it, or set traps to kill or possibly maim it?

I wasn't referring to animals when I said that it's not natural to enjoy other creature's suffering. I was referring to people. It is not natural for us to be like that.

Also, yes, I get your point. Yes, I probably would buy traps if a mouse was loose in my home. Not because I enjoy killing them but because they damage your belongings and pose a danger to you and your family.
(disease, fires caused by chewing wires, etc.) I would, however, buy traps that have the best success rate of killing an animal quickly and humanely. I am NOT a promoter of those glue traps that cause animals to suffer for hours or even days before they finally die from exhaustion or hunger. IMO they should be illegal.

Also, mosquitos are parasites that spread disease, and their bites cause allergic reactions, etc.

Now let me go to bed. I keep saying I'm going to bed then I hear the *bling* of another email notification on my tablet. Curiosity, I hate you!

Revenant · 11-04-12, 10:36 PM

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Something to think about. It's not natural to enjoy another creatures suffing? Why do so many Felines seem to enjoy playing with suffering prey in the wild? Where do you draw the line between insignificant life forms significant ones ? If a mosquito lands on you do you not swat it? If a mouse runs across your floor do you not try to step on it, or set traps to kill or possibly maim it?

I absolutely believe that humans naturally have a tendency to enjoy or be on some level excited by the suffering of others. Schadenfreude. I look at the famous tragic plays and operas, the sad country songs, the gossip magazines detailing the downward spiral of some troubled public figure and I can't deny it. Ever enjoy watching Simon Cowell crush some hopeful TV contestant? Ever felt smug at someone getting what you thought was coming to them? Ever enjoyed a bit of juicy gossip? Then you have taken pleasure in the suffering of others. (General you, by the way, not directed at RandyRhoads.)

At least the cats may only be doing something they enjoy and are indifferent to the suffering it causes.

I don't think the ability to show compassion separates us from other animals, either. I think dogs, elephants and gorillas are among the animals that can demonstrate a level of compassion and empathy. I'm sure there are more. It sounds anthropomorphic, and there may be more practical survival motivators at the base of it, but it is there.

As far as where the line is drawn, I couldn't begin to say because I don't think I'm very logical and consistent at drawing it for myself.

RandyRhoads · 11-04-12, 10:48 PM

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I absolutely believe that humans naturally have a tendency to enjoy or be on some level excited by the suffering of others. Schadenfreude. I look at the famous tragic plays and operas, the sad country songs, the gossip magazines detailing the downward spiral of some troubled public figure and I can't deny it. Ever enjoy watching Simon Cowell crush some hopeful TV contestant? Ever felt smug at someone getting what you thought was coming to them? Ever enjoyed a bit of juicy gossip? Then you have taken pleasure in the suffering of others. (General you, by the way, not directed at RandyRhoads.)

At least the cats may only be doing something they enjoy and are indifferent to the suffering it causes.

I don't think the ability to show compassion separates us from other animals, either. I think dogs, elephants and gorillas are among the animals that can demonstrate a level of compassion and empathy. I'm sure there are more. It sounds anthropomorphic, and there may be more practical survival motivators at the base of it, but it is there.

As far as where the line is drawn, I couldn't begin to say because I don't think I'm very logical and consistent at drawing it for myself.

Excellent reply, I thuroughly enjoyed reading this. I am surely guilty of having taken pleasure at others misery just as you have described, as i'm sure most have as well. I get disgusted at horror movies and the people that can't wait to see them. I had an ex that absoultely loved seeing people get chopped up. It caused huge fights with almost every girlfriend/wife i've had, and many friends. Especially the real ones. Faces of Death, why are so many people getting off watching an innocent man get his head sawn off while still alive. As you said, everyone has that tendency no matter what the level is.

Compassion is what seperates us from the animals- So what about people that can't feel compassion, do we treat them as animals? Some people just CAN'T feel it. Born that way or having something else in their life effecting it, it happens. So do we sit here and flame them calling them disgusting, or treat them as a person with a mental defect that can't help it?

Lol, I have trouble being very logical and consistent in drawing mine, that's why I ask so many questions and throw obscure things out challenging people. I want to hear thought processes and challenge hypocrisy.