Please Help - Cat Bullying - Page 7

formica · 07-14-13, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Abraxxos

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you resort to name calling, are you 10 years old? its pathetic.

I dont need to waste my money on pointless training collars, I have a mouth to issue commands with, and its worked perfectly for over 20 years, I dont need to learn anything from someone like you - so, whatever!

Abraxxos · 07-14-13, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by formica

you resort to name calling, are you 10 years old? its pathetic.

I dont need to waste my money on pointless training collars, I have a mouth to issue commands with, and its worked perfectly for over 20 years, I dont need to learn anything from someone like you - so, whatever!

And you resort to completely ignoring the valid points and refusing to learn. It's hugely pathetic. And ignorant. And idiotic.

You call it name calling. I call it pointing out the obvious truth.

I can bet it isn't as good as our collars.

I'm just using big words you don't like. Get over yourself. If I wanted to honestly call you names without something backing it up I could. Take the truth and accept it. Thought you were done posting here Formica. What's a matter, training not working well enough so you felt you needed to come back here and defend it?

formica · 07-14-13, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Abraxxos

And you resort to completely ignoring the valid points and refusing to learn. It's hugely pathetic. And ignorant. And idiotic.

You call it name calling. I call it pointing out the obvious truth.

I can bet it isn't as good as our collars.

I'm just using big words you don't like. Get over yourself. If I wanted to honestly call you names without something backing it up I could. Take the truth and accept it. Thought you were done posting here Formica. What's a matter, training not working well enough so you felt you needed to come back here and defend it?

whats the matter, did my pointing out how damaging negative reinforcement is to animals hit a nerve? feeling guilty perhaps?

and still with the name calling lol grow up.

Amadeus · 07-14-13, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by formica

whats the matter, did my pointing out how damaging negative reinforcement is to animals hit a nerve? feeling guilty perhaps?

and still with the name calling lol grow up.

Now who's being a ten year old?

Abraxxos · 07-14-13, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by formica

whats the matter, did my pointing out how damaging negative reinforcement is to animals hit a nerve? feeling guilty perhaps?

and still with the name calling lol grow up.

You are quite possibly the densest person I know if you thought that post was name calling. And no, I don't feel guilty. Because it isn't hurting them. I know because I have felt the collars. I know because I put the collar on myself before I would ever put it on my animals. But you wouldn't know this because you're too ignorant to realize. Please, remove yourself permanently and take your very stupid ignorant useless conjecture elsewhere. Still can't answer any of the questions.

formica · 07-14-13, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Amadeus

Now who's being a ten year old?

you are right; in defense I give what I get, its a trait i've never been able to shake, when confronted with someone who thinks that aggression is normal part of intelligent conversation.

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Originally Posted by Abraxxos

You are quite possibly the densest person I know if you thought that post was name calling. And no, I don't feel guilty. Because it isn't hurting them. I know because I have felt the collars. I know because I put the collar on myself before I would ever put it on my animals. But you wouldn't know this because you're too ignorant to realize. Please, remove yourself permanently and take your very stupid ignorant useless conjecture elsewhere. Still can't answer any of the questions.

I'm not going anywhere, so you'll just have to deal with it, if you cant handle a different opinion to your own without being rude, you'll just have to remove yourself

Abraxxos · 07-14-13, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by formica

I'm not going anywhere, so you'll just have to deal with it, if you cant handle a different opinion to your own without being rude, you'll just have to remove yourself

Says the person who has stated at least twice she was leaving the conversation... Why should we trust anything you say when you can't even follow through. Boy, how I was looking forward to that.

So, do you actually have anything to say about the OP or the tread, because now your ignorance has just turned to full blown off topic ranting. I will continue to stick to the practice of collar training. It has infallible results unlike voice commands alone which don't work on every animal.

formica · 07-14-13, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Abraxxos

Says the person who has stated at least twice she was leaving the conversation... Why should we trust anything you say when you can't even follow through. Boy, how I was looking forward to that.

I'm sure you where, although you havent added anything valuable to this thread what so ever, my advice to the OP was taken, and used, and was found to be helpful.

and btw, I am not a 'she'.

Abraxxos · 07-14-13, 11:59 AM

"OP: I need help. Opinions please!
Person1: Here's my answer!
Person2: Here's my answer!
Person1: I disagree with your answer. You're a horrible person.
Person2: Well that escalated quickly.
Person3: Do you have any experience with Person2's answer?
Person1: No.
Person3: Then shut up."

This thread in a nutshell.

I have actually. The OP asked for help. I answered. Whether or not you like it wasn't asked. Whether or not you think it's useful wasn't asked. Your opinion wasn't asked. Period.

formica · 07-14-13, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Abraxxos

"OP: I need help. Opinions please!
Person1: Here's my answer!
Person2: Here's my answer!
Person1: I disagree with your answer. You're a horrible person.
Person2: Well that escalated quickly.
Person3: Do you have any experience with Person2's answer?
Person1: No.
Person3: Then shut up."

This thread in a nutshell.

I have actually. The OP asked for help. I answered. Whether or not you like it wasn't asked. Whether or not you think it's useful wasn't asked. Your opinion wasn't asked. Period.

pretty sure the title of this thread is 'please help' - and if someone is giving what I consider to be bad advice, then I will say so, deal with it.

Abraxxos · 07-14-13, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by formica

pretty sure the title of this thread is 'please help' - and if someone is giving what I consider to be bad advice, then I will say so, deal with it.

Except it isn't bad advice. You can't consider it to be bad because you don't actually know if it is or is not. You have never dealt with this and have no experience with this. You admitted to never having used them. Thus you have no experience thus you have no place to say whether or not it is or is not bad. However when 3 people post about having used them and having had positive results you can do nothing but continue to slam them with your blatant ignorance. Let's see. People with no experience versus people with experience. Guess who's post is valid. Let me give you a hint, it isn't the post belonging the the person who has no experience. If you've never ridden a bicycle you can't give advice on how to ride a bicycle. If you've never skydived you can't have a valid unbiased opinion on which parachuting systems are better BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. Because you have never had experience with it. Because you know nothing about it. You can't tell a person whether vocal commands alone are better than e collars or not when you have no idea. The only experience you have is with vocal commands and sure, you know it has worked well so far but you have not a single living clue in the universe as to whether or not an ecollar could improve the training or not. So before you go around spreading hate and intolerance for something, experience it first. Everything to this point that you have said against ecollars is purely biased conjectural hear-say. No experience. No first hand knowledge. No understanding. You didn't even TRY to listen or understand.

formica · 07-14-13, 01:21 PM

in your opinion it isnt bad advice, in my opinion it is bad advice.

I have used both negative and positive reinforcement, so dont tell me I dont know what i'm talking about. I did read what you wrote initally, and then you got all up your own arse about it, so I stopped bothering. just like i'm still doing

Abraxxos · 07-14-13, 01:30 PM

I'm going to tell you you don't know what you are talking about because you act like you know everything there is to know about negative reinforcement and e-collars. You have never used them and never will. So no, you have no idea what you are talking about. When you have educated yourself, then come back, because right now you know nothing and with everything you say you only prove further that you know nothing.

Terranaut · 07-14-13, 01:32 PM

Longest thread hyjack I have seen in a while.
So can anyone actually help the OP now ?
Do you even remember the question?

formica · 07-14-13, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Abraxxos

I'm going to tell you you don't know what you are talking about because you act like you know everything there is to know about negative reinforcement and e-collars. You have never used them and never will. So no, you have no idea what you are talking about. When you have educated yourself, then come back, because right now you know nothing and with everything you say you only prove further that you know nothing.

yawn

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Longest thread hyjack I have seen in a while.
So can anyone actually help the OP now ?
Do you even remember the question?

pretty sure she's sorted it a few pages back