Oh my god

[Terranaut]

Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

have you seen my body condition? I cannot phyisically lift the weight asked of me to do. I tried to instruct but he kept telling me I was wrong. I WILL not go back, I cannot emotionally see animals like that and a man think its totally ok and I am wrong being berated for not knowing "my stuff".

i am getting another rescue involved into helping the animals. I cannot physically do the work. HALF A TON of garbage to be mucked out. The mold attacked my asthma and I am hightly allergic to pistachios and bananas and without an epipen im screwed. I am working with authorities to fix it. There is not a dang thing I personally can do to fix it. Why is everyone jumping on me to be the hero I cannot be? How bout you all go stop world hunger because thats about the same impossibility here for me anyway.

Ok. Deep breath. Lets try this again.
After reading what you posted I guess you just bit off way more than you could chew BUT maybe if you are of fragile health you shouldn't be doing stuff like this at all? Again not to insult you. I know you always mean well but maybe assisting rescues is not for you. Truly rescued animals are rescued from something bad. If your part of a rescue you will see the worst and believe you just did. It sucks you found out the hard way but now you know what not to do considering your health.

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by Terranaut

Ok. Deep breath. Lets try this again.
After reading what you posted I guess you just bit off way more than you could chew BUT maybe if you are of fragile health you shouldn't be doing stuff like this at all? Again not to insult you. I know you always mean well but maybe assisting rescues is not for you. Truly rescued animals are rescued from something bad. If your part of a rescue you will see the worst and believe you just did. It sucks you found out the hard way but now you know what not to do considering your health.

I weigh too less and the only thing hindering my ability to do hard labor is my inability to put on weight or muscle. I cannot get muscle tone. I can clean cages, not muck out half a ton of garbage. This shouldn't be part of a rescue. I imagined cleaning out poop not hundreds of pounds of waste some of it toxic like mold

[Aaron_S]

I think it's funny that you thought it was going to be simple stuff, like cleaning your own collection but just more.

This rescue is bad but what did you think you were going into? Sunshine and rainbows with every animal healing and well on it's way to recovery? No, a lot of animals are surrendered while on death's door to be left to the "rescuer" to deal with seeing a dying animal that can't be saved.

What did you think you were going to be in for when you decided to work there? I'm really curious because all the animals I ever see for rescuing are generally large. How will you go about carrying all the mulch bags, large food bags and if need be, the animals themselves if you can't lift more than some paper towel?

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I think it's funny that you thought it was going to be simple stuff, like cleaning your own collection but just more.

This rescue is bad but what did you think you were going into? Sunshine and rainbows with every animal healing and well on it's way to recovery? No, a lot of animals are surrendered while on death's door to be left to the "rescuer" to deal with seeing a dying animal that can't be saved.

What did you think you were going to be in for when you decided to work there? I'm really curious because all the animals I ever see for rescuing are generally large. How will you go about carrying all the mulch bags, large food bags and if need be, the animals themselves if you can't lift more than some paper towel?

basically what i am getting is "lol you dumb and weak as well as stupid- what did you expect?! Your are dumb" honestly this is how I feel. I realized there was stuff to muck out but half a ton of just garbage. ALL by my self while he sat on his butt laughing at me struggling to do the work. I dont understand the flack I am getting, if this is really how people on here are treated who try to do the right thing then maybe its just best I left.

[Falconeer999]

I don't get the unreasonableness in thinking that someplace that holds itself out as a "rescue" would be better cared for than the places the animals are coming from. It sounds like this place was just the opposite - the animals were going into a place with WORSE conditions than they were coming from. That is certainly not a reasonable expectation to have when dealing with a "rescue".

In other words, I don't get the jumping all over Dinosaur for thinking this would be hugely different than how it turned out to be.

[jarich]

I think you did right, DD. I think the place should be shut down and the animals euthanized or sent to other places where they will be cared for. It would be better for those animals to have been killed quickly rather than be brought to that dump to slowly die of torture.

DD, I believe you said in another post that you are leaving in two months, right? What do you guys think will happen IF she spent all her free time fixing these enclosures, for no pay, and getting these animals back to health? Do you think the guy will magically then just decide to keep them clean and cared for, or will they likely just fall back into tortuous conditions and die a slow death later after DD is gone again? That place is obviously a death trap for reptiles. Why would any of you defend it or suggest it is solely her responsibility to fix it herself simply because she saw it? Im guessing you all have animals suffering in your hometowns somewhere too; why havent you fixed all that yet?

She came here to rant because they were reptiles being tortured, and the likely place to gain some sense of the horror of that situation would be...oh, I dont know...maybe a reptile community. Rather than support her in shutting down the place, we pick at her for not singlehandedly changing someone else's business for no pay?! Ugh, gain some perspective.

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by jarich

I think you did right, DD. I think the place should be shut down and the animals euthanized or sent to other places where they will be cared for. It would be better for those animals to have been killed quickly rather than be brought to that dump to slowly die of torture.

DD, I believe you said in another post that you are leaving in two months, right? What do you guys think will happen IF she spent all her free time fixing these enclosures, for no pay, and getting these animals back to health? Do you think the guy will magically then just decide to keep them clean and cared for, or will they likely just fall back into tortuous conditions and die a slow death later after DD is gone again? That place is obviously a death trap for reptiles. Why would any of you defend it or suggest it is solely her responsibility to fix it herself simply because she saw it? Im guessing you all have animals suffering in your hometowns somewhere too; why havent you fixed all that yet?

She came here to rant because they were reptiles being tortured, and the likely place to gain some sense of the horror of that situation would be...oh, I dont know...maybe a reptile community. Rather than support her in shutting down the place, we pick at her for not singlehandedly changing someone else's business for no pay?! Ugh, gain some perspective.

i feel as if i am treated such because unlike everyone else who seems to be gods, I contribute nothing of value, honestly I dont even know why I stick around,it usually turns into a flame fest on a number of people- not just me either and its not helping the animals. I am tired of coming in with a problem- or anyone else for that matter and having a new hole ripped. It makes me ponder why I even post. I contribute seemingly nothing of value to anyone so maybe thats why I get this sort of reaction. Who knows. I may just disable this account and move on. After all the 2398423894203894% of post of me leaving are going to be "nothing of value was lost lolol" and I dont want to be apart of that kind of comunity. I am sorry I am not an expert like the rest of you, I do what I can with what I can, with what I know and I am always trying to learn, with what I know and its just never enough. I will fail at every turn and always be flogged for it so its asking myself "whats the point".

[dinosaurdammit]

[infernalis]

I don't understand the flak either, and it ends NOW.....

[Mark Taylor]

Good luck with shutting that place down.

There are a lot of places who will look after these animals properly and take them from that place they just need to hear it from someone and take a look.

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

basically what i am getting is "lol you dumb and weak as well as stupid- what did you expect?! Your are dumb" honestly this is how I feel. I realized there was stuff to muck out but half a ton of just garbage. ALL by my self while he sat on his butt laughing at me struggling to do the work. I dont understand the flack I am getting, if this is really how people on here are treated who try to do the right thing then maybe its just best I left.

Originally Posted by Falconeer999

I don't get the unreasonableness in thinking that someplace that holds itself out as a "rescue" would be better cared for than the places the animals are coming from. It sounds like this place was just the opposite - the animals were going into a place with WORSE conditions than they were coming from. That is certainly not a reasonable expectation to have when dealing with a "rescue".

In other words, I don't get the jumping all over Dinosaur for thinking this would be hugely different than how it turned out to be.

Originally Posted by jarich

I think you did right, DD. I think the place should be shut down and the animals euthanized or sent to other places where they will be cared for. It would be better for those animals to have been killed quickly rather than be brought to that dump to slowly die of torture.

DD, I believe you said in another post that you are leaving in two months, right? What do you guys think will happen IF she spent all her free time fixing these enclosures, for no pay, and getting these animals back to health? Do you think the guy will magically then just decide to keep them clean and cared for, or will they likely just fall back into tortuous conditions and die a slow death later after DD is gone again? That place is obviously a death trap for reptiles. Why would any of you defend it or suggest it is solely her responsibility to fix it herself simply because she saw it? Im guessing you all have animals suffering in your hometowns somewhere too; why havent you fixed all that yet?

She came here to rant because they were reptiles being tortured, and the likely place to gain some sense of the horror of that situation would be...oh, I dont know...maybe a reptile community. Rather than support her in shutting down the place, we pick at her for not singlehandedly changing someone else's business for no pay?! Ugh, gain some perspective.

i don't understand why your getting crap either pal

imo you did the right thing

re old school
i'm old school,but...

i don't believe in going into a rescue working your arse off,while the owner and guy in control of the money for the rescue,sits on his arse laughing about it all

the guy should not be in charge of the rescue...

imo your doing the correct thing in getting all those animals took off him,lets face it they won't be any worse off,than the crappy conditions this guys keeps them in

i would have done the exact same in your position...

its ludicrous to suggest otherwise

cheers shaun

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

i don't understand why your getting crap either pal

imo you did the right thing

re old school
i'm old school,but...

i don't believe in going into a rescue working your arse off,while the owner and guy in control of the money for the rescue,sits on his arse laughing about it all

the guy should not be in charge of the rescue...

imo your doing the correct thing in getting all those animals took off him,lets face it they won't be any worse off,than the crappy conditions this guys keeps them in

i would have done the exact same in your position...

its ludicrous to suggest otherwise

cheers shaun

ive posted videos as far as I can getting the word out, i still fail to understand how me doing all the work is going to improve conditions for those animals :/ its a sad fact but i feel as this is the right thing to do.

[Mark Taylor]

The way I look at things is this..... If it was the right thing to do at the time then it was still the right thing to do, No regrets in life. " What's done is done."

[SnakeyJay]

Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

ive posted videos as far as I can getting the word out, i still fail to understand how me doing all the work is going to improve conditions for those animals :/ its a sad fact but i feel as this is the right thing to do.

Link to the videos?

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay

Link to the videos?

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...tml#post818732