Pittbull ban passed, quesiton for existing owners - Page 4

havenbounce · 03-02-05, 07:26 PM

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Here's an interesting part my boyfriend brought up to me"The ban applies to the pit bull terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, American pit bull terrier or dogs that are very similar in appearance and physical characteristics."

So does this mean a dog that LOOKS like a pit bull is banned? What about overweight labs? They look a little Pitty to me. What about Boxers? Are they now banned? They look like Pits to me. And what person will be deciding which dogs look too much like Pit Bulls? Who will decide on a individual case basis which dog looks too "offensive" :

As per Bill 132 it will be up to the owner to prove their dog is not a pitbull or pitbull mix. How can you prove a mix breed is not a pit when you do not and cannot get registered papers. A lab/boxer mix does look exactly like a pitbull. God help us. Since the beginning of Jan/05 the Ottawa Humane Society has put down 25 dogs only because they look like a pitbull. They didn't even bother to do any temperment tests on them. They just didn't want them in before the ban actually passed. A sad sad day!
Ginnette

havenbounce · 03-02-05, 07:33 PM

Here's a link to Bill 132
http://www.ontla.on.ca/documents/Bil...n1/b132rep.pdf

C.ADAMANTEUS · 03-02-05, 07:38 PM

Ive owned only one dog ever that was NOT a pit bull, and my dogs "NEVER BIT ANYONE" Except My Neo Mastiff, and that was overturned cuz the guy was trying to break in my house, didnt see the dog, and got hisself chewed on a bit. (had it coming)
People need to be educated on the proper upbringing of dogs. Sociallizing, training, the works.
Any dog will bite when left on a chain and only attention when fed and watered.
They are Banning them down here also. New Mexico just OUTLAWED them out right, because of pit fights, but caulk fighting is still legal.?? go figure.
Many other Cities have used there right to Ordinances, and have done the same thing.
It all boils down to the upbringing of the dog. They are Family members in my eyes. Not pets.
Rick

Iceman · 03-02-05, 07:54 PM

just thought i'd say something else..

I really don't know why they are banning pit bulls, i know people that had pitbulls that were SO friendly all there life, and people say the thing with pitbulls what makes them agressive is that as they age there brain gets to big for there skull, there skulls cracks, and thats what makes them go nuts, anyone know if this is true?

Also, my sisters boyfriend has a bull terrier and a german shepard that were trained by his father as attack dogs, and the german shepard used to be a police dog, the german shepard will attack at command but the bull terrier will attack everyone except for my sister, her boyfriend, and his parents..

3 times the bull terrier attacked and killed a cat, once a dog(poor young huskie) and also a few times for some reason attacked its own master..

why? the way the dog was raised...

my best friend has a bull terrier that acts like a kitten, and its the meanest looking dog you'd ever see, lol..

my point? don't blame the dog, blame the master for making it that way, pitbulls dont raise them selfs,

the pic above is me and my girlfriend, along with my moms 3 dogs..

simba(the huge white one, hungarian sheep dog mixed with something) wishbone(the pitbull) and missy(the little one)

lol, just thought i'd show the pic.

(i look wierd, dont mind the just woke up look)

edit: dammit the pic is huge, lol

Raindog · 03-02-05, 08:04 PM

Here's Kilo.

It would be a very bad day for anyone that knocked on my door and demanded he be surrendered. That's as nicely as I can put it.

havenbounce · 03-02-05, 08:08 PM

You know all you need is to have a neighbour who doesn't like you to complain and they can enter your home with NO warrent and take that little cutie out of your home. (if u lived up here in Ontario (yours to Discover...unless your a dog!)
Isn't that a Bull Terrier?
Ginnette

JonD · 03-02-05, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by mykee
I'm having chicken schnitzel for dinner. Should be good, I'll keep you all updated...

LOL Damn Mykee that made me laugh!!

Jamie:

Yeah media determines what people watch. Backyard BBQ's, wet banana's and big wheels don't get viewer ratings, fear does.

C.ADAMANTEUS · 03-02-05, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Iceman
just thought i'd say something else..

I really don't know why they are banning pit bulls, i know people that had pitbulls that were SO friendly all there life, and people say the thing with pitbulls what makes them agressive is that as they age there brain gets to big for there skull, there skulls cracks, and thats what makes them go nuts, anyone know if this is true?

Also, my sisters boyfriend has a bull terrier and a german shepard that were trained by his father as attack dogs, and the german shepard used to be a police dog, the german shepard will attack at command but the bull terrier will attack everyone except for my sister, her boyfriend, and his parents..

3 times the bull terrier attacked and killed a cat, once a dog(poor young huskie) and also a few times for some reason attacked its own master..

why? the way the dog was raised...
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Absolutely not.
Pitt bulls were bred from various breeds until they got what they wanted. A medium powerful killing machine.
for that reason alone, its in there blood so to speak.
But ive had two males at the same time, uncut full of testosterone, and they got along great. Both died of old age, no spltting of skulls, or brain swelling too big for there cranium. That just is misleading info. Somebodies idea of what makes sence to them.
As far as being attack trained, Thats a chance you take when you train a dog to do that. They can easily misunderstand commands. Perhaps one that was unintentional, a hand gesture, a word.
Could be a number of reasons why. Could also just be a bad blood line. one that WAS bred for his fighting characteristics.
All I know is that the German shepherd is #1 on the last list I saw for probable biting, and for serious bites.
Rick

C.ADAMANTEUS · 03-02-05, 08:48 PM

Just thought id share a Pic or two of my girl Kasha

Shes a runt at 1 1/2 ft tall and 50 solid pounds, But you cant explain that to her.

And Blue belle, my only non pit ever. shes only 9 months in this pic and 105 pounds. Sorry no better pics

Rick

kpugh · 03-02-05, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by havenbounce
How can you prove a mix breed is not a pit when you do not and cannot get registered papers. A lab/boxer mix does look exactly like a pitbull. God help us.
Ginnette

I am currently doing an undergrad thesis about dog genetics, and there are some studies which show that dogs can be assigned to their respective breed using specific DNA markers (microsatellites to be exact). I don't think the technology has been used to identify pit bulls and related breeds yet, but this is definately one of the potentially useful applications of this technology. Could be useful in cases of mixed breeds or some of the obscure bull terrier breeds.

This whole mess is really, really a sad state....I almost feel bad for the ignorant people...

mykee · 03-02-05, 09:25 PM

For those of you that wondered, the chicken was great, had a nice greek salad with it, and some lemon garlic baked potato slices. I was pleased. Carry on.

havenbounce · 03-02-05, 09:29 PM

Lots of garlic...p.u. glad you're in Toronto...!(lol)
Glad it was good
Ginnette

HeatherRose · 03-02-05, 09:48 PM

That sounds great Mykee. Greek salad seriously owns. So do potatoes. I wish I had some of those really crappy white/peeled/canned baby potatoes in the cupboard right now, that would just make my day

C.ADAMANTEUS · 03-02-05, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by mykee
For those of you that wondered, the chicken was great, had a nice greek salad with it, and some lemon garlic baked potato slices. I was pleased. Carry on.

kpugh.....Great subject there. new to me. very interesting. they could really discover alot about diff breads.
hey mykee.....Glad yer enjoying the entertainment

Rick

mykee · 03-02-05, 09:52 PM

I promised myself that if this topic ever came back up, I would try my darndest to not get involved, 'cause I get too "into it". I'm a good boy. Thanks all for your vicarious pleasure in my wonderful meal.
Ginnette; You'll be glad to know that west of Toronto means an hour west, so I promise you won't smell me. I smell good though. Except for the pungent aroma of garlic seeping from my pores.