I need help! snake vs mouse - Page 2

Mikoh4792 · 10-04-13, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kera

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

How can you even do that without the rats squirming and going crazy. Isn't there a lot of bleeding when you snap the rats teeth out of its mouth?

Kera · 10-04-13, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

How can you even do that without the rats squirming and going crazy. Isn't there a lot of bleeding when you snap the rats teeth out of its mouth?

exactly what I was thinking. He just always likes to be right, even if he knows I'm right.

MDT · 10-04-13, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kera

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

....that's a "no"
He is incorrect on both accounts

Kera · 10-04-13, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MDT

....that's a "no"
He is incorrect on both accounts

thanks. he thinks he knows everything. May I say, a know-it-all. ;P

Mikoh4792 · 10-04-13, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kera

thanks. he thinks he knows everything. May I say, a know-it-all. ;P

Break up with him and get a boyfriend who knows what he's doing. Lol just kidding. But pulling teeth is a little over the top in my opinion. Why not just feed prekilled in that case.

Kera · 10-04-13, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

Break up with him and get a boyfriend who knows what he's doing. Lol just kidding. But pulling teeth is a little over the top in my opinion. Why not just feed prekilled in that case.

I was planning on doing that anyway.

(feeding f/t. Not breaking up with him.

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Awaiting Abyss · 10-04-13, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You're far off.

I find mice and rats go up and sniff the snake. Sometimes even the face and then they get eaten. These prey items are born and raised in captivity for generations. They don't know what a predator is or to be afraid of anything.

Rodents have instincts. They know what to fear and what not to. I've owned, watched and studied various rodents since I was a small child. I noticed a change in mine when I brought the snake into their room. They eventually got used to the new addition since they realized it was not going to harm them. They reacted the same when I first got indoor cats.

Starbuck · 10-04-13, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

How can you even do that without the rats squirming and going crazy. Isn't there a lot of bleeding when you snap the rats teeth out of its mouth?

exactly :/ :/ :/ :/

i cant even believe i just read that... What an incredibly inhumane and cruel practice. We all have probably been to the dentist, even getting a cavity filled can be excruciating, i cant imagine someone actually breaking off your teeth. The difference isn a) we know what is going on and b) we often have lidocaine, novicaine, etc, to diminish the pain.
. The difference between humans and rodents is that their teeth are much more firmly rooted in their skulls

incredibly painful, i'm still in shock

we dont need to make any special provisions for our snakes, if you dont want your snake to get bit, dont feed live. bottom line: snakes have BEEN eating live animals since before homo sapiens even showed up, we dont need to do them any favors :P

**Aaron_S** · 10-04-13, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kera

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

Do not listen to him. He's an idiot.

**Aaron_S** · 10-04-13, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Awaiting Abyss

Rodents have instincts. They know what to fear and what not to. I've owned, watched and studied various rodents since I was a small child. I noticed a change in mine when I brought the snake into their room. They eventually got used to the new addition since they realized it was not going to harm them. They reacted the same when I first got indoor cats.

You the difference between your experience and my experience? The dozens upon dozens of snakes I've fed live prey items to.

ErikBush97 · 10-04-13, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

It's okay to feed live. What isn't okay is to be cruel and hold prey items like that. It's a slight step down from the people who have said pull the teeth or claws out prior to feeding the rat off.

Feeding live isn't trouble. Very rarely does a snake actually get harmed. It's usually only harmed if they are left in for a prolonged period of time.

One of my Boas has scabs and scars all over her face from her previous owner feeding live. Just for example. Feeding live is fine if it's done responsibly, but she's failing to do so.

**Aaron_S** · 10-04-13, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GotsaQuestion

One of my Boas has scabs and scars all over her face from her previous owner feeding live. Just for example. Feeding live is fine if it's done responsibly, but she's failing to do so.

Did you read the last sentence I wrote?

I have not seen this video you speak of so I can't comment on that particular instance.

Awaiting Abyss · 10-04-13, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You the difference between your experience and my experience? The dozens upon dozens of snakes I've fed live prey items to.

I'm not fully understanding what you wrote, but why the rude tone?

**Aaron_S** · 10-04-13, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Awaiting Abyss

I'm not fully understanding what you wrote, but why the rude tone?

You don't understand what I wrote?

I said I've experienced a LOT of prey items not looking at snakes as predators and disregarding them as such until it's too late. It goes against everything you said about them feeling trapped and fighting.

In fact, I have never seen one actually fight.

For the record, my preference is f/t and I strive to ensure all my snakes eat that but one every once in awhile is a chump and won't eat f/t. Also, all my babies start on live.

ErikBush97 · 10-10-13, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You don't understand what I wrote?

I said I've experienced a LOT of prey items not looking at snakes as predators and disregarding them as such until it's too late. It goes against everything you said about them feeling trapped and fighting.

In fact, I have never seen one actually fight.

For the record, my preference is f/t and I strive to ensure all my snakes eat that but one every once in awhile is a chump and won't eat f/t. Also, all my babies start on live.

Almost every time I have seen a snake being fed live, in person and in videos, the prey always hyperventilates and I've actually seen quite a few jump above, behind, and a few times AT the snake. I have only seen a few prey items that didn't seem aware of the snake being a predator. I do understand that some snakes refuse F/T but before her video of her snake eating said live meal, she had fed him about six F/T meals. She did this for.fun or something, I guess?