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09-14-11, 04:32 PM
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Snake Child
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Trouble deciding what to breed!
So I keep changing my mind as to what I'm going to breed. I was strongly thinking BPs for awhile, but now I'm thinking corn snakes or something else. Suggestions. What about BRBs? KSB? Hognose? Lampropeltis? I'm leaning towards a python or boa. Colubrids are good as well however.
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09-14-11, 04:36 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Trouble decided what to breed!
I would go with corns
Reason 1-first time breeding
2-lower cost
3-easier husbandry
4-better feeders
5-simple sell of babies
6-If I am to help you sell the babies as I stated I would I could place corns in more homes than I could anything else
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09-14-11, 04:41 PM
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Snake Child
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Re: Trouble decided what to breed!
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Originally Posted by Gungirl
I would go with corns
Reason 1-first time breeding
2-lower cost
3-easier husbandry
4-better feeders
5-simple sell of babies
6-If I am to help you sell the babies as I stated I would I could place corns in more homes than I could anything else
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Okay thanks, I've been leaning for towards corns in the past day. Mainly because I have one and it's cheaper/easier.
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09-14-11, 04:42 PM
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queen of the Chicken Dance
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Re: Trouble decided what to breed!
I'm very fond of the Kenyan Sand Boas myself. I just had my first successful breeding this season with my Paradox Albino Female, and a male from her first litter, and got 17 beautiful babies from her, 4 more than her first litter of 13.
Before i bred them, though, i made sure i had the time, the space, and the finances to care for the new little ones. In the end, though, there is no better feeling than coming home from work, or school, in your case, and seeing those little faces peering at you from inside mom's enclosure!
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09-14-11, 04:56 PM
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Retic Fanatic
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
Is paradox genetic in ksbs? it isn't in retics or bps.
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09-14-11, 05:00 PM
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
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Originally Posted by stephanbakir
Is paradox genetic in ksbs? it isn't in retics or bps.
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it is yes, only species to prove to produce gentic paradox
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09-14-11, 05:00 PM
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Member
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
It must be! I was excited too lol...in most cases, (based on what I've read) it's chimaerism; basically there were two embryos in one egg with two different genetic makeups, but at some point one absorbs the other. The majority of the animal exhibits the "winners" genetics, but there are patches that exhibit the other animal's genetics.
but I guess there is a gene for KSB's hahaha...probably waaaaaaaaaay too expensive for what Youngster's looking for right now though :/.
Edit: Or maybe not! There is a pair of Snow Paradox juveniles on youtube for $150! Could be more out there for that cheap...
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09-14-11, 05:01 PM
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
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Originally Posted by youngster
So I keep changing my mind as to what I'm going to breed. I was strongly thinking BPs for awhile, but now I'm thinking corn snakes or something else. Suggestions. What about BRBs? KSB? Hognose? Lampropeltis? I'm leaning towards a python or boa. Colubrids are good as well however.
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If you don;t know what to breed, don't breed.
Unless you have a passion for it forget it.
Question exactly why you are breeding it.
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09-14-11, 05:06 PM
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Snake Child
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
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Originally Posted by bladeblaster
If you don;t know what to breed, don't breed.
Unless you have a passion for it forget it.
Question exactly why you are breeding it.
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The exact reason why I want to breed is simply because it will bring me immense joy in pretty dark times right now. I have a passion for snakes that I can't really explain. I'm very confident about this. I don't really get why not being positive what species I'm going to breed determines my incompetence?
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09-14-11, 05:08 PM
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
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Originally Posted by youngster
The exact reason why I want to breed is simply because it will bring me immense joy in pretty dark times right now. I have a passion for snakes that I can't really explain. I'm very confident about this.
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thats good, but you can;t breed everything straight off.
Are you planning on buying adults to breed right away or babies to grow on and breed?
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09-14-11, 07:10 PM
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Snake Child
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
Figured out what I'm gonna do. My favorite kind of corn is a caramel so I'll going to try for caramels. Financially makes the most sense.
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09-14-11, 07:19 PM
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
What might make the most sense is waiting a year, till you are more financially stable and have another year under your belt, by then you should KNOW what the next step should be.
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09-14-11, 07:26 PM
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Snake Child
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
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Originally Posted by stephanbakir
What might make the most sense is waiting a year, till you are more financially stable and have another year under your belt, by then you should KNOW what the next step should be.
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It's not that I don't have enough money just with BPs it's kinda like taking a gamble. But caramelxcaramel = 100% caramel so I basically know how much money I'm going to make. That's what I meant by financial sense.
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09-14-11, 07:54 PM
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
See I don't understand anymore cause first it was a school project and now it is because you just want to do and and now you are getting interested because of the money from what it sounds to me, I seriously think you should consider waiting a year. I don't know if you completely understand what you are getting into and i really don't mean anything by it but i've been your age we all have and we know what it is like to get excited about something and really want to do it and because of that we out pace ourselves and end up getting bit in the a*se over it.
I really think you should have a look around and maybe find a few people near you that have been breeding for awhile and like with the hots mentor under them for a bit, learn the ropes, the practice, get some tips and advice.
There are so many people out there breeding and there are so many animals that its starting to out weigh the buyers and even though I don't want you getting stuck with a bunch of animals with no where to put them I don't want a bunch of unwanted babies floating around more. You have to realize this is bigger then you and a school project breeding and bringing lives into this world is a very serious thing and I think a lot of people forget that. Just because they aren't human babies shouldn't mean their lives shouldn't be treated with the same respect.
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09-14-11, 08:11 PM
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Snake Child
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Re: Trouble deciding what to breed!
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Originally Posted by Valvaren
See I don't understand anymore cause first it was a school project and now it is because you just want to do and and now you are getting interested because of the money from what it sounds to me, I seriously think you should consider waiting a year. I don't know if you completely understand what you are getting into and i really don't mean anything by it but i've been your age we all have and we know what it is like to get excited about something and really want to do it and because of that we out pace ourselves and end up getting bit in the a*se over it.
I really think you should have a look around and maybe find a few people near you that have been breeding for awhile and like with the hots mentor under them for a bit, learn the ropes, the practice, get some tips and advice.
There are so many people out there breeding and there are so many animals that its starting to out weigh the buyers and even though I don't want you getting stuck with a bunch of animals with no where to put them I don't want a bunch of unwanted babies floating around more. You have to realize this is bigger then you and a school project breeding and bringing lives into this world is a very serious thing and I think a lot of people forget that. Just because they aren't human babies shouldn't mean their lives shouldn't be treated with the same respect.
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1. It is a project but I'm not doing it because it is. The reason I'm doing it is because it's something that means a lot to me. My family is going through a lot right now and snakes are sort of an escape for me.
2. It's not that I'm greedy for the money I just need to make a profit to pay my parents back and if I were to do ball pythons I'm not necessarily going to make a profit. The potential ball python profits are more than corn snakes, however it's a gamble.
3. I know what I'm getting into, I have already found people that are interested in taking the babies. I do not plan on just throwing them out the window once they are born. I regard snakes as an equal to humans.
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