Greetings from Malaysia

zeththebest · 11-04-09, 01:14 PM

hey guys,

My name is Zeth, i own a Tarantula and just got a snake. im 21y/o btw...

i just got my self a baby oriental whip snake yesterday and i would like to share with you guys the pics of it...i hope you guys will enjoy the pictures presented...

ohyea, anyone else having this? any tips on taking care of this baby?

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please share some info on this reptiles, its my first time having it...

This is some of my Rose hair pics to share...

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thats all from me...and feel free to ask anything... Cheers~

siz · 11-05-09, 08:35 AM

Hello, welcome to the forum! I've never heard of that snake being called a whip snake before, it's Latin name is Ahaetulla (not sure of the subspecies). I don't keep this species but there are one or two people on the forum who do, so you could try making a new post with "ahaetulla info" or something as he subject title

I do know they eat lizards like anoles and house geckos, but I don't know much on their husbandry.
How long have you been keeping reptiles for?

zeththebest · 11-05-09, 09:15 AM

thanks for the welcome siz.... well, i will open a thread on this snake soon...

i just got it the same day as i post my intorduction...

once i reach home, grabbed my camera...and start shooting! hahahah thanks for your tips anyway...

Will0W783 · 11-05-09, 03:09 PM

It's also called an Asian vine snake. They are fairly common, but most only eat house geckos and anoles like Jess said. They are also a very high humidity arboreal snake, so they need a vertically-oriented cage preferably at least 2'x2'x2' and a fogger or mister system to keep the humidity up.

zeththebest · 11-06-09, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by siz

Hello, welcome to the forum! I've never heard of that snake being called a whip snake before, it's Latin name is Ahaetulla (not sure of the subspecies). I don't keep this species but there are one or two people on the forum who do, so you could try making a new post with "ahaetulla info" or something as he subject title

I do know they eat lizards like anoles and house geckos, but I don't know much on their husbandry.
How long have you been keeping reptiles for?

thanks for the welcome siz... hrmm i will open a thread bout that soon...thanks for your advice...

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

It's also called an Asian vine snake. They are fairly common, but most only eat house geckos and anoles like Jess said. They are also a very high humidity arboreal snake, so they need a vertically-oriented cage preferably at least 2'x2'x2' and a fogger or mister system to keep the humidity up.

hrmmm as im staying in Malaysia, with high humidity i don't think i need a mister/fogger... the problem is, the snake is too aggressive.. and its a baby.. so i think it will take time, that i can handle it... thanks for your imput by the way...

Will0W783 · 11-06-09, 08:33 AM

They are rear-fanged venomous, so be careful. I don't think the venom is strong enough to hurt a healthy person, but some people are allergic to it and there's no way of knowing until you get bitten and have a bad reaction. So handle with care. From what I understand, they are quite ready to bite when young, but like any snake species, calm down with regular handling and age. I would recommend buying a nice thick pair of leather gauntlet gloves (the kind that come up to your elbows) and wear them when you handle the snake until it becomes calmer about you. Also, a snake hook is great-it helps to bypass the "bite first, look later" instinct that a lot of young snakes are born with.

zeththebest · 11-06-09, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

They are rear-fanged venomous, so be careful. I don't think the venom is strong enough to hurt a healthy person, but some people are allergic to it and there's no way of knowing until you get bitten and have a bad reaction. So handle with care. From what I understand, they are quite ready to bite when young, but like any snake species, calm down with regular handling and age. I would recommend buying a nice thick pair of leather gauntlet gloves (the kind that come up to your elbows) and wear them when you handle the snake until it becomes calmer about you. Also, a snake hook is great-it helps to bypass the "bite first, look later" instinct that a lot of young snakes are born with.

ohyea? thanks willow... well, a long love yea been looking around for it...

but, for this snake, its very fast so is a hook is sufficient? i mean it will try to run away from me, coz its too new to me and the environment in my room... just wondering... what i always do at the moment is to hold back of their head gently... to avoid it from turning around to me or to escape from me... after awhile can see the snake is relax on my wrist... but then, im scared of letting go of the head.. (might dash of)...

Will0W783 · 11-07-09, 01:28 PM

Grabbing the head is almost a guarantee that you will be struck at. It sets off the defense mechanism, and is very traumatic for snakes. A predator would grab them like that, IMO it's best to not do anything they might equate with being attacked. Approaching the animal from underneath is much less threatening. I would just go slowly with the snake. Just take baby steps, slowly getting it used to being hooked and then once it's calm with the hook, lift it out of the cage. The best way to use a hook is to hook slightly front of midbody and then gently grasp the tail to get the snake out so it isn't just hanging off the hook with one point of support.
Taming any snake takes time and patience. But moving slowly but determinedly and always ending on a good note is the best way to do it. I would get the smallest snake hook you can find for a vine snake.

Will0W783 · 11-07-09, 01:30 PM

Oh, and don't be scared and timid. Move without hesitation; hesitation and flinching gets you struck at far more often than just moving in and getting the lifting over with before the animal can react. I would know- it took me almost a year to get over being nervous and hesitant with snakes I know are slightly nippy or very nippy. I don't know if they can sense fear like cats and dogs can, but I've always found that a calm, determined approach makes the whole experience go better for both me and the snake.

zeththebest · 11-07-09, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

Grabbing the head is almost a guarantee that you will be struck at. It sets off the defense mechanism, and is very traumatic for snakes. A predator would grab them like that, IMO it's best to not do anything they might equate with being attacked. Approaching the animal from underneath is much less threatening. I would just go slowly with the snake. Just take baby steps, slowly getting it used to being hooked and then once it's calm with the hook, lift it out of the cage. The best way to use a hook is to hook slightly front of midbody and then gently grasp the tail to get the snake out so it isn't just hanging off the hook with one point of support.
Taming any snake takes time and patience. But moving slowly but determinedly and always ending on a good note is the best way to do it. I would get the smallest snake hook you can find for a vine snake.

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

Oh, and don't be scared and timid. Move without hesitation; hesitation and flinching gets you struck at far more often than just moving in and getting the lifting over with before the animal can react. I would know- it took me almost a year to get over being nervous and hesitant with snakes I know are slightly nippy or very nippy. I don't know if they can sense fear like cats and dogs can, but I've always found that a calm, determined approach makes the whole experience go better for both me and the snake.

wow, willow, thanks alot for your long and detailed reply for my humble post... well, i will take your advise and try to approach the snake a ''proper'' way... hrrmm, well things to buy, a hook... well, if it would be the same for a very fast snake? if om not mistaken a Ball Python is a very docile snake am i right? well, for vine snake... it moves way too fast for me...just in case it get shock for some reason... well, im sure i need lotsa reading and practice to do now... well thanks alot once again for the tips willow...reaaly appreciate it!

cheers~

Will0W783 · 11-07-09, 06:15 PM

Hooking any snake is basically the same procedure. If you've never done it before, it might take you a few tries before you get it right. Gently slide the hook under the snake sideways and turn it so it hooks the animal. Then gently grasp the tail and remove the snake. It can be tricky sometimes- I have yearling white-lipped pythons and they are fast and jumpy- I got bitten a lot until I started using the hook. You'd be surprised- generally snakes react far less to a hook than to a hand. I guess it's just something they'd never encounter in nature so they don't recognize it as food or threat, and so it doesn't evoke a response. Who knows, but they sure make life easier.