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11-15-03, 01:52 PM
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Toxic woods/paints??
I can't seem to find a list or anything that lists the toxic woods and paints. I am going to build a cham cage, just not sure what paints and woods to use. If I cover the wood with that stuff they put on tables (can't remember the name mel something) would it matter at all what kind of wood I use?? Also what's the best type of screen?? Like there's normal screen the there's metel and covered metel.
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11-15-03, 03:58 PM
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Although people will disagree due to durability issues, I still recommend melemime.. What I always do with melemime is silicon ALL edges so the particle board never comes into contact with moisture. For the bottom of the enclosure where your substrate, water bowl etc will be line it with a tarp to proof it even more. And walla, you have a durable long lasting enclosure that did not take much time or hassle to put up.
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11-15-03, 04:25 PM
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Sounds like a good idea. Thanks.
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11-15-03, 04:54 PM
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for a cham cage its best to use all screan depending on your needs im not sure what is best. but for my cages i use pine (untreated) it is cheaper then hardwoods or i would have used hard wood. I use aluminum coted screed and hardwere cloth. I have planted enclosures but i also have some that just have potted plants its up to u hope that helps here is a pic
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11-15-03, 05:04 PM
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Nice cages!! What do you mean by hardware cloth??
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11-15-03, 05:11 PM
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hardware cloth is the wire screen on front of the cages you see.
I personally do not recommend melamine, unless you like tanks that weigh a TON, and its not water/humidity proof, just resistant. The best thing in my opinion is a hard wood, since conifers are poisonous to snakes (cedar/pine) Use Glass where ever possible to reduce the weight, and a good polyeurethane coating for safety. Must be cured in heat to make it safe in my opinion. If you can smell it then don't use it.
that is my general rule.
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11-15-03, 05:14 PM
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If I sealed and painted the wood why would it matter what kind I used?? Also what paints and sealants are safe to use?? Collide what did you use on your cages??
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11-15-03, 05:31 PM
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If you use either a low-VOC epoxy or polyurethane sealant it doesn't matter what kind of wood you use.
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11-15-03, 05:39 PM
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I have not sealed the cages as yet i am planning too i just have not found or been 100% on a sealent was safe or not. some of my cages i have had for years now and have never had any dammage via water ect... but i would still recomed sealing even though i havent yet. in the planted areas its lined with plastic drop sheats and filled with pebbles on the base and soil for the plants and even with the constant watering i never have a issue with overwatering the plants (think thats because of the scale). generally ik use mesh on the front and top and hardware cloth on the sides so they can climb if they want helps with foot dammage. IF you go with this method they are heavy and i would sugest getting casters for the bottom so you can wheel the cage around if nessary. Oh the hardware cloth is the black mesh on the sides on the sides of the cage below
here is another cage i just finnished bad photo ad to do some lining up lol but its 4' x 6' x 2' I still have to put hardwere cloth on the back just put some boards for a temp fix and the middle can come out so its one huge cage.
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11-16-03, 12:04 AM
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I can't see the pic??
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11-16-03, 04:09 PM
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Last edited by Collide; 11-18-03 at 11:45 PM..
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11-18-03, 05:32 AM
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Plastic Laminate, aka Arborite. Non-toxic, water PROOF, unlimited designs. Unfortunatly expensive. You can knife the stuff and it wont leak, i love it!
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11-18-03, 11:46 PM
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My domain name expited I forgot about it lol oh well i have fixed all my pics ect.
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11-20-03, 03:32 PM
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I thought pine was toxic to reptiles??
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11-20-03, 09:30 PM
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Can anyone give me a link to somewhere that says that pine is toxic because if it is Im gonna need to make some changes. I was under the impression if was ok.
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