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04-12-16, 08:22 AM
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2016 Albino Checkered..
I went into my gravid albino checkered garter tub and found her actively in labor with about 25 hatchlings already delivered. Closed the tub back up and came back 30 minutes later to 36 albino checkered total count. Three super albino checkered included. You can see one of the supers at 8:00 in the first pic.
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04-12-16, 09:30 AM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
The little guy in the middle was stuck in his amniotic membrane and almost didn't make it until i moved him to a different tub. In the birthing tub he was under the carefresh litter and seemed to be having a hard time breaking through the membrane. You can see in the pic that he is on his way out. He is a bit smaller than his littermates.
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04-12-16, 11:20 AM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
Wow, congatulations! ![Big Grin](http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) They looks sooo cute, and I'm glad that the smaller guy did make it
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04-12-16, 11:52 AM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
Oh they are just precious. You'll have to keep us up to date on them!
But 36 babies sounds like a large clutch... Were there any slugs?
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04-12-16, 01:24 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
That's awesome AL! Another job well done.
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04-12-16, 01:44 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
Wahoooo!!!! They are sooo cute!!!! Well done!
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04-12-16, 03:32 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
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Originally Posted by Sylphie
Wow, congatulations! ![Big Grin](http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) They looks sooo cute, and I'm glad that the smaller guy did make it ![Smilie](http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Thank you Sylph. He would not have made it if I didn't look close enough to pick him out of the litter. I then lifted him up and looked closer and he wasn't moving. I then put him in the new tub and saw movement.
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Oh they are just precious. You'll have to keep us up to date on them!
But 36 babies sounds like a large clutch... Were there any slugs?
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Thanks TB! I will. No slugs , no deaths, and no deformities! The mother is a monster garter and had 24 babies two years ago.
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That's awesome AL! Another job well done.
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Thanks EL! I been checking her tub every day for the past week. She just blew up so much over the past 3 weeks looking like,she was going to explode! Lol.
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Wahoooo!!!! They are sooo cute!!!! Well done!
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Hey, thanks Koko! I can't believe these supers. I will be holding back a pair for my albino granite checkered project. Still waiting to hear from Steven Bol about the blue puget. I did take your advice. Haha.
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04-12-16, 03:42 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
Gorgeous babies, and quite the litter! Hopefully that other females drops you some visual granites. :P
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04-12-16, 03:51 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
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Gorgeous babies, and quite the litter! Hopefully that other females drops you some visual granites. :P
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Thanks bsg, just what I am hoping for. She should drop soon too. You will be the first to know. I got a feeling she will come through. Haha.
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04-12-16, 05:31 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
Very nice looking clutch you've got there. Just a quick question though. What makes a super albino vs a normal albino. I see it looks much lighter, but I don't know much about them so please excuse my ignorance. Thanks
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04-12-16, 05:45 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
I'm glad you took that advice!! I can't wait to see what comes out of it!!
Very nice clutch!!
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04-12-16, 09:02 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
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Originally Posted by SWDK
Very nice looking clutch you've got there. Just a quick question though. What makes a super albino vs a normal albino. I see it looks much lighter, but I don't know much about them so please excuse my ignorance. Thanks
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Thank you SW! This is not ignorance really and no need to be excused. Very good question that deserves a good answer. Albino being a recessive trait when bred to another recessive that has the same homozygous (visual) form will produce that trait visually. Or that recessive trait will be expressed. In some of the offspring there will be a higher blushing in the coloration and or patterning. This will make the animal look lighter and sometimes the markings however reduced can appear more vivid in places on the animal.
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04-12-16, 09:20 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
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Originally Posted by Kokorobosoi
I'm glad you took that advice!! I can't wait to see what comes out of it!!
Very nice clutch!!
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Well, up until today it's been three weeks and I haven't heard from him one way or the other. I plan to keep trying however. I do have a plan B btw. Thanks for the compliment! ![Blink](images/smilies/blink.gif) ![Blink](images/smilies/blink.gif) ![Blink](images/smilies/blink.gif)
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04-12-16, 11:32 PM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
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Thank you SW! This is not ignorance really and no need to be excused. Very good question that deserves a good answer. Albino being a recessive trait when bred to another recessive that has the same homozygous (visual) form will produce that trait visually. Or that recessive trait will be expressed. In some of the offspring there will be a higher blushing in the coloration and or patterning. This will make the animal look lighter and sometimes the markings however reduced can appear more vivid in places on the animal.
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Sorry SW , I got this explanation wrong about the super form as it relates to these garters. It's the codominant gene not the recessive that will get you to the super form when bred to the same. So with garters it would be the pastel to pastel gene giving the " super pastel" which can look like a brighter version almost yellowish/ white colored snake that looks different from the parent pastel form. None of these pictured checkereds is really a super. There is a color mutation at play with the lighter albinos but not the super at all. No codom in these guys , only recessive X recessive. Hope that makes it a little clearer.
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04-13-16, 12:09 AM
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Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..
It is no surprise that people get confused by terms like super because they are only industry terms. Technically a super is a homozygous form of a incomplete dominant genetic trait just as a visual is a homozygous form of a recessive trait. So in a way you are not that far off Albert.
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