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Old 03-08-12, 08:00 PM   #16
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

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Re: Snake I.D. please.

I was thinking eastern yellowbelly racer?
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

Looks like a rat snake of some sort. Doesn't look like a garter snake to me
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Old 03-09-12, 05:00 AM   #19
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

Yeah I hate to object to Wayne but I zoomed in on the picture and the pattern is far more mottled and banded... I don't think it's a garter, it reminds me more of a northern water snake.
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Old 03-09-12, 05:37 AM   #20
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Yeah I hate to object to Wayne but I zoomed in on the picture and the pattern is far more mottled and banded... I don't think it's a garter, it reminds me more of a northern water snake.

Excellent call +1 (without zooming it looks speckled)

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Old 03-09-12, 07:01 AM   #21
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

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Re: Snake I.D. please.

I don't think Missouri counts as northern though.
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

I wasn't sure about that myself, so i looked it up just now... Handy little website for your viewing pleasure... http://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/file.../5187_3026.pdf
There are northern water snakes in Missouri as well as other species of water snakes too. I stick to my ID though...
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My money is on a yellow bellied racer or possibly a yellow bellied water snake. According to that PDF northern water snakes are only found in the Norther ⅔ of MO.
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

anyone think that it could be a speckled king?
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This is a Thamnophis elegans vagrans (Wandering Gartersnake). It looks pretty similar to me.
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

The snake in your picture has a dorsal line that the snake in the OP's picture doesn't have.
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Yeah, you're right. I didn't notice the zoomed-in pic of the snake.
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Re: Snake I.D. please.

Unfortunately, unless we could get a better picture, it's nearly impossible to get a hundred percent identification on.
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The snake in your picture has a dorsal line that the snake in the OP's picture doesn't have.
I have seen quite a few wandering garters that lack the dorsal stripe, hence my first guess.
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