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Old 08-04-14, 04:10 PM   #1
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Question what morph?

I've had my corn snake for about 11 years now. I got him as a baby for my 6th birthday. I've never thought much of it, but recently I've been woundering if he could be a different morph.I think he looks a little different than normal or wild corn snakes. My mom thinks that he was labeled as a fancy corn at the pet store, but it's been so long it's hard to recall. He seems to be a bit brighter orange with a different style of sattles/pattern. Also, he has a plane belly, not a checkered one. However, it does fade from a very light orange starting at the tail, into a pure white more towards the middle and the front half of him. Although, this may be due to scaring from an accident with tape we had when he was younger. Anyways, my question is if anyone else thinks that he is a specific morph or just a normal corn snake? Thanks.









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Old 08-04-14, 04:13 PM   #2
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Re: what morph?

The saddle spots shaped like that make me think of motley, but definitely don't quote me on that!
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Old 08-04-14, 07:34 PM   #4
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Re: what morph?

I have no proof to back this up, but looks like a Everglades rat snake had a little night out drinking with a Corn.
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Old 08-04-14, 07:37 PM   #5
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Re: what morph?

I'm not too familiar with morphs but that's a very nice looking corn. It's nice to see a well kept mature snake.
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Re: what morph?

The patterning near the head made me think motley too, but I'm not real educated in morphs so I'd wait for someone more experienced to chime in. Also kudos to you for having him so long, nice to see an older snake.
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Re: what morph?

I've been looking at a few pictures of different morphs of corn snakes and it seems like a lot of them have the white that fades into orange on their belly. So Maybe it isn't scaring. The motley might explain the plane belly if that's what he happens to be. Hopefully someone will know for sure what he is. It doesn't make a big difference, but I'd just like to know and I was thinking about breeding him when I move out of my parents house.
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Re: what morph?

The lack of markings on the ventral scales is a good indicator that it's a motley. Color wise, I don't see much to suggest that he's anything other than a very orange normal. Corn snakes can be highly variable in coloration without possessing a specific gene.
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He is a Normal (Wild Type) Motley. A lot of Normal Motley's tend to have that lighter orangey shade in adulthood, the clear patternless belly is a Motley trait.
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He is a Normal (Wild Type) Motley. A lot of Normal Motley's tend to have that lighter orangey shade in adulthood, the clear patternless belly is a Motley trait.
Is motley a recessive or a dominant trait? And are they worth more than normal corns?
Like I said, it's not a huge deal, but I was thinking about breeding him someday.
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What a handsome fella! He reminds me a lot of my older boy... he's an anery motley (so looks just like yours, only grey!) and he's about 15 years old (:
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Re: what morph?

I think it would be a hypo (reduced black) motley.
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Old 08-06-14, 01:02 AM   #13
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As far as I am aware the gene is recessive. Motleys do fetch a buck or two more than just a normal. For instance, in my country a Wild Type Normal hatchling might go for R50, but a Wild Type Motley hatchling might fetch R65. Amel (Albino) hatchlings go for R100. I hope I have put a bit of perspective on the subject.
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