Savannah Monitor Redemption - Page 9

nepoez · 03-30-13, 06:22 PM

Finally came back up after artificial solar eclipse(me installing new lights)

smy_749 · 03-30-13, 06:32 PM

Very nice last pic haha Are those plants growing new? Or you placed them in like that? Also yes, we stated many times that the purpose of the low wattage lights is that they don't run as high of temps, and don't toast the air. I don't have enough experience with the UVB to answer that question, but a dome is only a few dollars if your worried about it, or you could make your own out of a few layers of tinfoil or something.

Is that type of tree with the white bark safe to put in the enclosure? I don't know much about trees.

nepoez · 03-30-13, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Very nice last pic haha Are those plants growing new? Or you placed them in like that? Also yes, we stated many times that the purpose of the low wattage lights is that they don't run as high of temps, and don't toast the air. I don't have enough experience with the UVB to answer that question, but a dome is only a few dollars if your worried about it, or you could make your own out of a few layers of tinfoil or something.

Is that type of tree with the white bark safe to put in the enclosure? I don't know much about trees.

cool hopefully the humidity goes even higher with the new lights! I just checked ghana's humidity it's like 84% so I'm still below that, but then savannahmonitor.net says 60% is fine? So hope someone can answer that... will there be problems?

also crap.... Please someone who knows about trees tell me about if that white tree is bad.. I guess it's hard for you to help but it was tree meant for firewood so I assume it should be safe?! Should I just use a plastic log?

And thx, haha I bought some wheat and burried them in the soild and they started growing.. I kinda like the looks. I might try to grow the whole tank full of that when I get my new tank all setup!

DeadlyDesires · 03-30-13, 06:41 PM

im happy to see the pictures... with the uvb, i wouldn't use that bulb, they arent very accurate. i have a florescent fixture in mine with tube lights that are 2ft long with 10.0 bulbs.

DeadlyDesires · 03-30-13, 06:44 PM

i dont understand your question about the tree? it looks fine to me, as for the humidity, 60% on the cool side is ok but should be a little higher what is the humidity on the hot side? you should have two hygrometers so you can measure both sides. my cool side is 80%my hot side is 60% you just wanna make sure you are creating a good gradient with the humidity, also you can get a small stick humidity gauge from the pet store and check the borrows, if the humidity down there is almost 100% i wouldn't be too worried about the 60% above.

murrindindi · 03-30-13, 06:44 PM

Hi, at the end of the day, captive Varanids that are properly supported do not need exposure to either real or artificial UVB to remain in good health and productive for many years, that`s been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt over many generations and species (the choice is yours)!

nepoez · 03-30-13, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Very nice last pic haha Are those plants growing new? Or you placed them in like that? Also yes, we stated many times that the purpose of the low wattage lights is that they don't run as high of temps, and don't toast the air. I don't have enough experience with the UVB to answer that question, but a dome is only a few dollars if your worried about it, or you could make your own out of a few layers of tinfoil or something.

Is that type of tree with the white bark safe to put in the enclosure? I don't know much about trees.

p.s. what do u use for ubv?

nepoez · 03-30-13, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

im happy to see the pictures... with the uvb, i wouldn't use that bulb, they arent very accurate. i have a florescent fixture in mine with tube lights that are 2ft long with 10.0 bulbs.

Could you please tell me more about the problem with UBVs.. I was pretty worried about using coil UVBs but asked on this forum and was told they are fine.. but maybe it's better to be safe.. What did you mean not very accurate? will they do damage to the eyes u think?

DeadlyDesires · 03-30-13, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nepoez

Could you please tell me more about the problem with UBVs.. I was pretty worried about using coil UVBs but asked on this forum and was told they are fine.. but maybe it's better to be safe.. What did you mean not very accurate? will they do damage to the eyes u think?

they do damage because they are so bright and can cause blindness... as for the accuracy there is a test going around here somewhere on the net that shows the output rays from it.. the problem with the coil bulbs is they are aimed at only one spot and when you get the tubs you have a wider range of uvb exposure to the animal. other then that, i dont really know a whole lot, just that most use the florescent bulbs so i go with majority rules kinda thinking.

nepoez · 03-30-13, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

i dont understand your question about the tree? it looks fine to me, as for the humidity, 60% on the cool side is ok but should be a little higher what is the humidity on the hot side? you should have two hygrometers so you can measure both sides. my cool side is 80%my hot side is 60% you just wanna make sure you are creating a good gradient with the humidity, also you can get a small stick humidity gauge from the pet store and check the borrows, if the humidity down there is almost 100% i wouldn't be too worried about the 60% above.

My guage is in the middle of the tank. But now that u mentioned it I never guaged it on the cool side or the hot side i can just feel the dryness under my MVB(when I had it) compared to the cooler side.. I should check.. Logically the cooler side will be more humid than what the middle reads, and hot side should be drier.. and the burrow, from the way they come out all muddle I'm pretty sure wet mud is 100% humidity, What do u think? but doesn't hurt to go get a guage that can measure soil just for the heck of it.,

and for the tree.. SMY brought up a concern that's why I'm asking, just to be safe.

nepoez · 03-30-13, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi, at the end of the day, captive Varanids that are properly supported do not need exposure to either real or artificial UVB to remain in good health and productive for many years, that`s been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt over many generations and species (the choice is yours)!

So you are saying I don't even need UVBs. But then I would need to supplement d3 in the diet then right?

nepoez · 03-30-13, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

they do damage because they are so bright and can cause blindness... as for the accuracy there is a test going around here somewhere on the net that shows the output rays from it.. the problem with the coil bulbs is they are aimed at only one spot and when you get the tubs you have a wider range of uvb exposure to the animal. other then that, i dont really know a whole lot, just that most use the florescent bulbs so i go with majority rules kinda thinking.

Could more people comment on this? I'd like to know if anyone here uses coils for over 1-2 years with monitors.. but either way I am gonna take off the bulb for now just to be safe... then install the tube one when i have a 8ft tank in a couple weeks, the coil bulb would be too small for a 8ft tank anyways.. but I'd still like to know from anyone's experiences.

smy_749 · 03-30-13, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nepoez

p.s. what do u use for ubv?

I don't. They receieve what they need from a good diet, and thats what I plan to provide.

Also about the tree, some tree species contain toxins, syrups, stuff designed to repel or attract predators/pollinators (like caffeine/poison Ivy etc.)

smy_749 · 03-30-13, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nepoez

So you are saying I don't even need UVBs. But then I would need to supplement d3 in the diet then right?

Every mammal (exclude pinkys) that has bones, will provide the necessary vitamins, including calcium. I believe shrimp shells, egg shells, and some other stuff provides this as well. If your feeding whole prey, the general rule is you don't need to supplement. d3 if you are feeding insects or whatever.

And some places say 60% humidity is ok, on the assumption that you have the proper substrate and they are able to simply go down and regulate that way.

murrindindi · 03-30-13, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nepoez

So you are saying I don't even need UVBs. But then I would need to supplement d3 in the diet then right?

If you offer them a whole prey diet (including a % of vertebrate prey) they do not need UVB exposure, and you do not need to offer supplementary D3. I would personally advise around a 50/50% invert to vertebrate (always whole animals only).