A few photographs of my critters - part 1 - Page 9

crocdoc · 02-09-12, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

He was out there every single day advocating that reptiles aren't the bad guys.

Telling people they're aggressive is not the way to do that.

BarelyBreathing · 02-09-12, 04:27 PM

I honestly don't recall anything like that. Then again, it's been ages since I've watched the show.

red ink · 02-09-12, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crocdoc

I do apologise, but I have to admit that I laugh when I read statements like this:

It seems most people in the US aren't aware that he was against the ownership of reptiles by private keepers. It's fairly well known here.

What irked me most about crikey was his insistence on using the word 'aggressive' while holding a snake by the tail. "Look how aggressive it is! It wants to TAG me". Gave people the wrong idea about snakes, in my opinion. People watching his show that aren't snake enthusiasts walk away thinking a species is far more aggressive/dangerous than it really is, which is bad in a country like Australia. That's how I found out about his show to start with: A good mate rang me and said "I had no idea (I can't recall the species of snake) were that dangerous" and when I asked "who said they were?" he told me about the show. I watched a couple of episodes and that was enough for me.

Shhh... Doc that's a dirty secret, some people also have inside knowledge of his "poaching days".

DragonsEye · 02-09-12, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crocdoc

What irked me most about crikey was his insistence on using the word 'aggressive' while holding a snake by the tail. "Look how aggressive it is! It wants to TAG me". Gave people the wrong idea about snakes, in my opinion. People watching his show that aren't snake enthusiasts walk away thinking a species is far more aggressive/dangerous than it really is, ....

Interesting that you should mention this. I've had an issue with Frank Indiviglio who often writes articles about the husbandry of various animals. I dropped him a note one day about his use of "aggressive" rather than "defensive" in an article of his (he asks for comments). My concerns were similar to yours (matter of fact I posted my opinion on the "aggressive" vs "defensive" on some thread here not long ago, as I recall). Indiviglio's response was that "as the author of 5 books" he is aware of the distinction between the words but doesn't feel it's possible to distinguish the two when looking at animal behavior. Hence his continual use of "aggressive". My response was that as "the author of 5 books" he should be well aware of the power of words and how the words one chooses to use influence's a reader's perception. He lost a great deal of my respect at that point.

Swany · 02-09-12, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by red ink

Shhh... Doc that's a dirty secret, some people also have inside knowledge of his "poaching days".

Is this another case of poacher turned gamekeeper ?

red ink · 02-09-12, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Swany

Is this another case of poacher turned gamekeeper ?

More or less...

**millertime89** · 02-10-12, 02:18 AM

I actually just watched an episode not too long ago that had a ton of video from his early days and I can't say I'm terribly surprised. I also don't understand how people like him can be against the private ownership of reptiles. What makes them so damn special? Proper training? Do they forget that they had to start somewhere as well?

red ink · 02-10-12, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

I actually just watched an episode not too long ago that had a ton of video from his early days and I can't say I'm terribly surprised. I also don't understand how people like him can be against the private ownership of reptiles. What makes them so damn special? Proper training? Do they forget that they had to start somewhere as well?

A zoo that makes them millions of dollars from people viewing animals they can legally own themselves...

Ironically his old man is the total opposite of him, Bob is a big advocate of native wildlife ownership. I hate to say it but..... Terry Irwin.

**millertime89** · 02-10-12, 02:41 AM

The zoo can keep the animals that already aren't legal for people to own or animals that people don't want to own. In places like Australia they can keep non-native wildlife and things like salties and mambas and elephants. C'mon, how many nuts are out there that WANT to keep those? Things like snakes and monitors that are easily kept in homes aren't going to be kept by very many people. Private ownership doesn't cause any harm to zoos financially. I have reptiles and I still LOVE going to the zoo to see all the crazy things that I can't have/don't want.

What about Terry?

red ink · 02-10-12, 03:12 AM

I've got a license to keep salties...

I think I'll leave the Terry issue alone (forget I said it)

BurmeseGuy · 02-10-12, 06:30 AM

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Man these monitors are cool! They look like little raptors!

exactly what I was thinking, very awesome cool pictures, you're a good photographer...well worth the pushin on your cushions lol

**millertime89** · 02-11-12, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by red ink

I think I'll leave the Terry issue alone (forget I said it)

Well now you can't.

beardeds4life · 02-12-12, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

The zoo can keep the animals that already aren't legal for people to own or animals that people don't want to own. In places like Australia they can keep non-native wildlife and things like salties and mambas and elephants. C'mon, how many nuts are out there that WANT to keep those? Things like snakes and monitors that are easily kept in homes aren't going to be kept by very many people. Private ownership doesn't cause any harm to zoos financially. I have reptiles and I still LOVE going to the zoo to see all the crazy things that I can't have/don't want.

What about Terry?

I agree the it would take a huge collection before it actually hurt the zoo

crocdoc · 02-13-12, 12:17 AM

I don't think that was the motivation. I suspect it had to do with misguided ideas about conservation, similar to their stance on crocodile farming and sustainable harvesting of wild kangaroos, two things that are actually pro-environment.

Skumbo · 02-13-12, 12:34 AM

Oh man i love these pictures! if only I could go out and see animals like this, The only things I can count on running into while mountain biking are moose and bears.