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03-09-11, 11:45 PM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
quick question Jay.. do you have an area available that there is no other people around??
I'm just curious, or do you have to go to a public park?
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03-10-11, 12:33 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
Curious is ther any line of thinking to keeping them on a feast and famine diet as they partake in in the wild. I can't realy see any benefits to this except possibly to reduce fatty build up that they are designed to store. Just wondering for the sake of wondering.
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03-10-11, 12:42 AM
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#108
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
from what I have seen and gathered, once a monitor becomes obese, it's extremely difficult to get them healthy again. ( I base that statement solely on what I have read, and not on personal experience. Chompers food intake has been regulated since the day we got him as a hatchling. )
One thing that has to be taken into consideration, if you allow the animal to eat until it's "satisfied". it will consistently overeat.
No matter how much they beg, no matter how much of a temper tantrum that lizard throws, don't give in.
In the wild, even with feast/famine conditions, they have to hunt and chase the prey, in captivity people hand them the food, not much going on to promote exercise and get the ol' heart rate up.
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03-10-11, 01:02 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
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Originally Posted by mo9e64
it's official ,discussion over ,Sapphyr has given 100% i haven't seen groupies on forums before LOL
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Pardon, but no where did I say my word was an end all. I'm just saying that all of their information and quotes adds up and from all the details they've given, and proof, quotes, links, etc. it all seems to be the healthiest and best decision for a Sav's diet by date and from what's been stated by far.
Absolutely NO WHERE did I say my OPINION was -definite- and the end all say all for this conversation. I don't have a fat ego, I don't think I know everything, please don't go off on a whim and make such rude remarks based on absolutely nothing.
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03-10-11, 01:51 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
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Originally Posted by Sapphyr
Pardon, but no where did I say my word was an end all. I'm just saying that all of their information and quotes adds up and from all the details they've given, and proof, quotes, links, etc. it all seems to be the healthiest and best decision for a Sav's diet by date and from what's been stated by far.
Absolutely NO WHERE did I say my OPINION was -definite- and the end all say all for this conversation. I don't have a fat ego, I don't think I know everything, please don't go off on a whim and make such rude remarks based on absolutely nothing.
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i dont think he was trying to be mean
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03-10-11, 02:13 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
So you don't think,"It's official, discussion over, Sapphyr has given 100%. I've never seen groupies on forums before. LOL" strikes you as rude? To me, it's a rather snide statement.
He's stating that since I said I agree with Wayne and BigHog 100%, then OBVIOUSLY the discussion is over because I've given my opinion, like it's the most important, therefore everyone has to listen to me. I made no claim to such a horrid assumption, nor would I ever -ever- think my opinion is almighty and everyone must abide by it. That's just plain old stupid and anyone that thinks that of themselves could stand to have their ego knocked down a peg or two. An opinion is an opinion, it's not fact. A fact is a fact. Example: I think ball pythons are prettier than corn snakes. = Opinion. I think ball pythons are bigger than hognoses. = Fact.
Furthermore, he's saying that, since I agree with them, I'm obviously a forum groupie and only agree with them since they're so obviously my friends. I don't know BigHog, nor do I claim him to be my friend. Maybe if I actually talk to him more, I'd consider him to be, but I don't know him well enough. Wayne? He's a good guy, but I don't know if he considers me a friend.
This is how I see the statement, and it's very rude to make such an assumption, even more to actually go with it and make such a remark. Not all assumptions are right.
At any rate, none of that is near relevant to this conversation. I'm really tired of these attacks, I wish -some people- in this thread would stay focused about the DIET discussion and not about talking crap on people.
And yes, I know that I may also go into that talking crap category, but it's only defense of someone being rude in my direction. I personally feel like it was an unprecedented attack because I haven't done or said anything rude to anyone, though some might of taken offense to my statement of 'stop pointing fingers LIKE little kids'. I said LIKE, not you ARE. I mean, to me, that statement he made came from absolutely no where.
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03-10-11, 03:23 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
even wayne took it as a joke. im sorry you feel that way.
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03-10-11, 03:33 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
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Originally Posted by Reptile_Reptile
even wayne took it as a joke. im sorry you feel that way.
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Yes, well, I find it offensive to just randomly be picked on for absolutely no apparent reason. It's very annoying.
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03-10-11, 06:06 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
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Originally Posted by Sapphyr
Yes, well, I find it offensive to just randomly be picked on for absolutely no apparent reason. It's very annoying.
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I honestly believe Mo had no intentions of offending you.  I really think he was just trying to lighten the mood on a heavy debate.
Had I perceived his post as malicious toward you, I would have deleted it and said something.
His post could be taken in a few ways, maybe he called the whole forum "groupies" maybe that implies I am a sheep herder and the flock follows... maybe it was a lighthearted stab at a situation that needed a little "tickle" to bring some smiles...
Think about the BS that Jay has endured throughout this discussion, and he was the one who launched the thread in the first place..
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03-10-11, 07:05 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
I don't need to read most of it to understand most of you have very little to no expeirence with monitors. Yes im younger then probably all of you, but probably have more expeirence then most of you on here. I don't care if you think im an a hole cause it doesn't matter what you think. I post on forums cause I have lots of knowledge on monitors. This is a pitifull forum for monitors cause theres not any knowlagable keepers on here. Go to another forum cause this ones crap. Why don't you post some pics, every one loves pics.
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03-10-11, 07:08 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
Plus all the post on here don't even pertain to the op or question. It's mostly BS convo.
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03-10-11, 07:14 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
If you think the forum is that bad why dont you take your opinion elsewhere and let those of us who enjoy this forum carry on without having to listen to your pitiful whining.
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03-10-11, 07:19 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
What I see is two very young monitors who have not been around long enough to get all messed up inside yet. housed in a cage that looks far better suited to Iguanas than Savannah monitors.
Terrestrial burrowing animals housed in an arboreal cage and being fed the diet that you endorse are doomed to die at a young age.
and yes you do need to read the entire discussion, any idea how stupid it makes you look when you jump into the middle of a discussion and make statements that have already been proven false several posts prior??
Then back up your "claims" by posting a picture that clearly displays improper housing?
Daniel Bennett is known the world over for his Savannah research, he went to their native habitat and did bona fide research, yet you challenge his findings.
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03-10-11, 07:24 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
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Plus all the post on here don't even pertain to the op or question. It's mostly BS convo.
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Again, you are freaking clueless.
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Originally Posted by motoxracer189 on his racing profile
Im really big into reptiles and I want to work with them for a living.
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Then you need to open up your mind and be willing to learn!
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So far you have done nothing but make yourself look like a fool, harass people and then call the forum names...
See ya!
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03-10-11, 08:59 AM
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Re: Sav Diet Quails??
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Think about the BS that Jay has endured throughout this discussion, and he was the one who launched the thread in the first place..
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what BS ? because you think its wrong its BS?
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