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04-08-13, 05:36 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
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Awesome. I wonder how many 2x4's were needed. I can look up how much those bins from Ikea are online I'm guessing.
Does some kind of hide need to be placed inside for the mothers to have their babies in? Or will they just kind of have them in the corner? I think I have a lot to learn about breeding rats! 0.0
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Don't over stress it. They are breeding machines haha. People talk about exact temps and humidity levels for roaches, what to feed them, water crystal this and. I threw mine in a bin, put the heat on medium, threw some stuff in there and they are doing wonderfully.
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04-08-13, 05:41 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
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Don't over stress it. They are breeding machines haha. People talk about exact temps and humidity levels for roaches, what to feed them, water crystal this and. I threw mine in a bin, put the heat on medium, threw some stuff in there and they are doing wonderfully.
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That's what I did with my roaches, but the babies don't grow fast enough and Django's eating all the good sized ones. So I'm thinking of buying some more whole sale and throwing them in and re-establishing a balance. I know I should wait till the colony can get back to it's own balance- but I have a hungry monitor on my hands so he gets what he wants lol.
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04-08-13, 07:26 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
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That's what I did with my roaches, but the babies don't grow fast enough and Django's eating all the good sized ones. So I'm thinking of buying some more whole sale and throwing them in and re-establishing a balance. I know I should wait till the colony can get back to it's own balance- but I have a hungry monitor on my hands so he gets what he wants lol.
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Yea you need the colony to really start booming before you feed any of them off. I sold alot of my nymphs and my colony is trying to catch back up again, so I'm not feeding much from it these days.
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04-09-13, 07:37 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
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I've searched everywhere... Ikea no long makes those awesome SLUGIS storage bins... I've heard of people using cat litter pans, but I think the key to that kind of construction is the lip around the top that is both thin and strong for easy sliding in and out.
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04-09-13, 07:42 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
I'll say it again. Concrete mixing tubs.
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04-10-13, 05:34 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
I think the key to using those concrete tubs is to not make a 'rail' for them to slide on like a drawer but rather support them from the bottom. I've heard that the lip around the top isn't really a good standard because they can vary in thickness. Then if you have to replace the tub for any reason you have to take apart the rails and re-fit them to that certain thickness. But it would just mean a little bit more wood and I might have some scrap around from Django's enclosure anyway. I think I can figure it out either way. Now the big debate on if I should just use 1/2" hard ware cloth or try and find 1/3". I guess the 1/2" is better if you are feeding lab diet because the food can fit through the holes without falling straight through. And I do want to feed lab, but if the people at the rescue want to also feed cat food or whatever then we might have an issues with it falling straight through. Though I'm not funding this project, just building it, so I guess it's not really up to me in the long run.
This build is going to be kind of a slow process, mostly due to lack of cash. I'll start with the frame after I search around for the best deal on 2x4s and just go from there.
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04-10-13, 06:13 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
I just answered my own stupid question... I'm going to make one side of the screen 1/2" and the other half 1/3" so that they can feed whatever they want. Obviously the preference would be like a Mazuri lab diet or something but cat/ dog food isn't too bad once in a while if they run out of food.
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04-16-13, 06:45 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
Just some pictures I snapped of him today.
You can see in the black and white one how much he has grown (compared to that holey branch thing) in only 3 weeks time!
He's eating adult mice now, I really am in awe of how big he has gotten. Day one with him back in January he couldn't swallow anything larger than a pinkie mouse!
He looks a bit tubby in these pictures because he kind of is. I think I was way over-feeding him for a while so I've cut back till he loses some of that little belly fat.
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04-16-13, 06:57 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
It's pretty tricky to overfeed baby monitors who have enough heat. They are machines.
He's looking good though, was he if fed up in that photo, or sitting calmly?
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04-16-13, 08:34 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
He's looking good. He doesn't look all that tubby to me to tell you the truth. Just make him run a bit more to get his food if you're worried.
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04-17-13, 05:36 AM
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Wow he got big haha Lookin good. Any updates on the rat rack?
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05-04-13, 02:38 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
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It's pretty tricky to overfeed baby monitors who have enough heat. They are machines.
He's looking good though, was he if fed up in that photo, or sitting calmly?
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Sitting calmly! Shocking! He's really calmed down a lot lately, I don't know if it's because he has become more used to me or if he's just realized not everything outside the enclosure is trying to eat him... But I'm enjoying it! He snaps into feeding mode and catches 1 foot of air while trying to snatch mice from tongs, which is also super entertaining. But then after dinner time is over he calms down and chills under the lights.
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05-04-13, 02:42 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
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He's looking good. He doesn't look all that tubby to me to tell you the truth. Just make him run a bit more to get his food if you're worried.
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Okay, that's good. He kind of looked like he was dragging his belly a bit so I was getting paranoid. I've bumped the basking spot from 125 to 140 by adding another low watt bulb, just in case it's not the quantity of food but rather not digesting properly. He uses that 140 spot, but mostly he sleeps just a few inches away from it where the temp is around 95. Burrow/ cool side is still around 80. Is this too hot? I mean that's the surface temp at the entrance of the burrow so it might be cooler inside?
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05-04-13, 02:54 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
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Wow he got big haha Lookin good. Any updates on the rat rack?
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Nope, I've had the very fortunate opportunity to have access to about 4 newborn rabbits per week! And fertilized goose eggs that I have incubating till they develop a little more before I crack them open and feed them (it's gross and a little disturbing because the baby goose is alive, but Django thrashes it and eats it in a flash so they die quickly? :/ )That plus my frozen mice and dubia roaches are working great for me for now. I will get that rat rack running before this fall when all my other feeders stop breeding and producing, though.
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05-04-13, 08:59 PM
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Re: Django the Nile Monitor
Sounds like he's doing great! We love pictures... LOL
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