Het albino retic question - Page 7

**Aaron_S** · 11-27-12, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by reptileexperts

. I was able to breed it a few months later. I raised a group of the resulting heterozygous offspring and bred these retics to produce the first captive-born albino retics in 1999 - - From Bob Clarks Article.

If he's referring to the fact he bred the hets back together, this would easily explain why visually he was able to see all three across the board since his original male was a Lavander. :-)

I thought it was only the white that produced all three? He of course bred het to het as well as daddy to daughter I'm sure.

reptileexperts · 11-27-12, 04:25 PM

wait a second . . . nope that doesn't explain it! Het to Het breeding would result in only ONE type of Visual Albino:

Ww x Pp = wp - lavander as the only result, no ww or pp . . . So again, dad was lavander and bred back to the het offspring, perhaps he was seeing all three across all the clutches of off spring from the hets bred back to dad? So in which case:

WP x Pp = WP and PP
WP X Ww = WW and WP

So across two clutches by breeding hets you can produce all three. The article is very vague. I'll email one of his workers tonight and ask him if he can clarify this information with Bob :-)

reptileexperts · 11-27-12, 04:26 PM

No, Lavander x Lavander produces all three . .. if its white that produces all three I'm mentally messed up at this point!!! He thought it was a white when he originally imported it, but "found it to be a pleasent lavander base"

**Aaron_S** · 11-27-12, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by reptileexperts

wait a second . . . nope that doesn't explain it! Het to Het breeding would result in only ONE type of Visual Albino:

Ww x Pp = wp - lavander as the only result, no ww or pp . . . So again, dad was lavander and bred back to the het offspring, perhaps he was seeing all three across all the clutches of off spring from the hets bred back to dad? So in which case:

WP x Pp = WP and PP
WP X Ww = WW and WP

So across two clutches by breeding hets you can produce all three. The article is very vague. I'll email one of his workers tonight and ask him if he can clarify this information with Bob :-)

Yes the article is vague so we can only speculate upon it really. I hope Bob's people can help us.

reptileexperts · 11-27-12, 04:27 PM

~ I was shocked and pleased to see that the white areas (the black pattern of a normal-colored retic) were instead a pleasing lavender color. The eyes were orange with red pupils.

Bob Clark.

*whew* I haven't been working too hard.

**lady_bug87** · 11-27-12, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

Love reading this thread.. although it made my head spin!

Pfft you're telling me!

**Aaron_S** · 11-27-12, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by reptileexperts

~ I was shocked and pleased to see that the white areas (the black pattern of a normal-colored retic) were instead a pleasing lavender color. The eyes were orange with red pupils.

Bob Clark.

*whew* I haven't been working too hard.

So tell me again how the three strains work?

reptileexperts · 11-27-12, 05:50 PM

White x White = White
Purple x Purple = Purple
Lav x Lav = All three
White x Purple = Lav
Purple x Lav = Purple and Lav
White x lav = white and Lav

So the original being a Lav - wp for helpful purpose - makes all this possible. Had the original been a purple, we'd only have purples till new genes were found :-) Emailed one of Bobs employees, fingers crossed he knows the answer to bobs vagueness.

Squirtle · 11-27-12, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Yea I may need that lesson after all....

Maybe I should start another thread I kind of hijacked this one....

But no need to stop now I guess (Wayne, Alesia you can move this to a new thread if you want I'm just too lazy to start another one)

So I have a normal male, he was sold to me AS a normal male no hets or anything but he's greenish. When I asked a breeder about it he said my normal *could* be the result of a clutch with other morphs in it which would mean it would be het for a gene that other siblings in his clutch would have been visual representations of... Right?

The only way to tell for sure would be to breed him out. But not knowing what he could be shmushed with how would I decide what to breed him to? (I'm not actually going to breed him I'm just working through a mental exercise) and then see what pops out

No, it's completely fine. I actually learned a few things in this thread! I have a question though: Do you guys know why purple albino retics are more expensive than lavender albinos if lavender x lavender produce all three? Whereas purple x purple only makes purples.

**Aaron_S** · 11-27-12, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtle

No, it's completely fine. I actually learned a few things in this thread! I have a question though: Do you guys know why purple albino retics are more expensive than lavender albinos if lavender x lavender produce all three? Whereas purple x purple only makes purples.

The look. People probably prefer it.

reptileexperts · 11-27-12, 07:51 PM

mmmm purple. Yep my purple cost a good chunk more than a white and a wee bit more than a Lavender. But it's also a female, and a dwarf making the price go up more. . . still smexy!

**millertime89** · 11-29-12, 12:00 PM

While I love purple, IMO nothing beats an awesome white headed Lav!
This is Miss Lavender, owned by Harry Wessels.

Also, here's a vid for you guys from Kevin at NERD about lethal ball python combos.
Lethal Ball Python Combos Part 1 - YouTube

**lady_bug87** · 11-29-12, 01:38 PM

Beautiful... If only they weren't muster sized...

reptileexperts · 11-29-12, 02:20 PM

Lol miller - I posted the other half of that video earlier. And yes, part of retics beauty is in their size, but not always. I'm really enjoying working with the Dwarf populations :-)