Snakes around the neck?

[Kettennatter]

Originally Posted by cossiecraig

Great thread this 1 so i'll throw my 2 cents in ,first and foremost when you see this pic .......please for the love of God ignore my moustache ok......it was about 19 yrs ago lol......to the topic in hand though this pic was took of me and Kara purely for memories ,here she was approx 13 ft and again approx 125 Ibs .....big girl forsure ,i had it took as i knew she was going to get to a point where i couldn't physicaly hold her on my own .
what you don't see in the pic is that there was 3 grown men in the background should things get out of shape ,which they can and could've ,on the whole though i don't agree with holding big constrictors around your neck as some have allready said here regarding newcomers thinking it's okay if they see a BP or Corn snake for example ...........again i want too make this pic clear it was purely for me to have that memory of her .....i loved her very much and she was a very tame girl ,always fed in the viv and never turned a meal down from piglets,to rabbits,to hares ....she loved them all .

It's a gorgeous snake. It's that without the context you provided the casual observer may not realize what you did to make sure you were safe.

[cossiecraig]

Originally Posted by Kettennatter

It's a gorgeous snake. It's that without the context you provided the casual observer may not realize what you did to make sure you were safe.

Thankyou Kettennatter ,that was a main point i was trying to present ,sure now i know 3 men would have 1 hell of a fight on their hands but all the time there i felt safe as i knew her from a baby burm ,that bieng said i also know her instinct was passed down from her elders and so fourth ,many a time i seen her power in feeding and for it to go wrong would've made all the wrong headlines and bad press ......thats why i had some form of back up and each knew what to do .

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by Toronto1977

The chances of a Royal or Corn doing any real damage are VERY slim. In martial arts pressure points are very well known, and are used especially in self-defense. I'm not advocating having a snake around one's neck but a good deal of localized pressure would have to be applied to the either the side of the neck (right above the clavicle) and/or by the adam's apple, in order for any real damage to be done. Kids of course would be more vulnerable. If you've ever been headlocked by your older brother you'd know that it's not that easy to get knocked out, unless of course you use the sleeper hold on someone.

the quickest way to render somone unconcious...

is to close the cartoid arterys,theres one either side of the neck,they deliver oxygen to the brain,close them and your out cold in roughly 3 to 8 seconds,also it does not take much pressure to close both veins

much quicker than strangulation of the windpipe,as when the windpipes closed,your lungs still feed oxygen to the brain for a good few minutes

a cartoid choke instantly stops the oxygen to the brain

this is why i don't condone snakes of any size round a persons neck

there have been deaths in the USA,when a snakes constricted their owners necks

i would rather play safe myself

cheers shaun

[rmfsnakes32]

I wear my smaller ones around my neck but my 8 footer no way she is way to big and strong

[Philmul]

Well after reading this I think I will just hold them over my shoulder. Last night my 5 ft boa decided to constrict my arm and wow it was very strong. there is no way i would have her or any around my neck anymore. Lol My snakes are in my garage my wife scared stiff of them so no one to help when I feed them. They only small now but when fully grown I will just chuck food in anyway.

[Philmul]

Now this guy is taking a big risk
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[Kettennatter]

He is not so much taking a risk, as much as promoting something that can be risky for no obvious reason. You don't know the snake in question and the cirumstances.

Or to put things into perspective: I think anybody riding a motorcycle is taking a greater risk.

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by Kettennatter

He is not so much taking a risk, as much as promoting something that can be risky for no obvious reason. You don't know the snake in question and the cirumstances.

Or to put things into perspective: I think anybody riding a motorcycle is taking a greater risk.

i have to disagree.....

a guy on a motorcycle is in complete control and can stop etc anytime he chooses

if that retic in the picture,decided to constrict for whatever reason,then the guy would be dead,he has NO control over what that snake will do,considering an anaconda can constrict at 900 pounds per square inch,for anything from 15 minutes or more,that much larger,more powerful retic,would have easily killed him

cheers shaun

[Kettennatter]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

i have to disagree.....

a guy on a motorcycle is in complete control and can stop etc anytime he chooses [...]

I disagree on that one. The guy on the motorcycle is at the mercy of every motorist around him.

if that retic in the picture,decided to constrict for whatever reason,then the guy would be dead,he has NO control over what that snake will do,considering an anaconda can constrict at 900 pounds per square inch,for anything from 15 minutes or more,that much larger,more powerful retic,would have easily killed him

cheers shaun

Yes, but I consider most motorists to be more aggressive than most snakes. The key point here is not that the snake is capable, but that most snakes behave more consistently and less aggressively than most people operating a vehicle.

Another way to put it: I'm not riding a motorcycle because I'm afraid a truck would run me other the minute I left my driveway. I'm afraid that the odds would eventually catch up with me. Same here: The chances that something bad happens during a single event are actually slim, even if it promotes the wrong behavior.

[filthy phil]

Any snake of mine would catch a bullet b4 it choked me out. Which is one reason im staying away from the big ones for now.

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by filthy phil

Any snake of mine would catch a bullet b4 it choked me out. Which is one reason im staying away from the big ones for now.

It only takes 3-8 seconds for you to be unconscious, if you can react, draw and fire that fast without warning you are lucky as hell, considering you won't feel it happening half the time. Also, what if you arms are tied (lol)

[filthy phil]

Originally Posted by cossiecraig

Great thread this 1 so i'll throw my 2 cents in ,first and foremost when you see this pic .......please for the love of God ignore my moustache ok......it was about 19 yrs ago lol......to the topic in hand though this pic was took of me and Kara purely for memories ,here she was approx 13 ft and again approx 125 Ibs .....big girl forsure ,i had it took as i knew she was going to get to a point where i couldn't physicaly hold her on my own .
what you don't see in the pic is that there was 3 grown men in the background should things get out of shape ,which they can and could've ,on the whole though i don't agree with holding big constrictors around your neck as some have allready said here regarding newcomers thinking it's okay if they see a BP or Corn snake for example ...........again i want too make this pic clear it was purely for me to have that memory of her .....i loved her very much and she was a very tame girl ,always fed in the viv and never turned a meal down from piglets,to rabbits,to hares ....she loved them all .

Awasome
She in snakie heaven I take it?

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by filthy phil

Any snake of mine would catch a bullet b4 it choked me out. Which is one reason im staying away from the big ones for now.

Really wanted to avoid saying this, but it needs to be said. As the responsible keeper you are (right?) its your responsibility to not be a moron and put the animal in a situation where you might for whatever reason need to end its life to protect your own or someone elses.

[filthy phil]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Really wanted to avoid saying this, but it needs to be said. As the responsible keeper you are (right?) its your responsibility to not be a moron and put the animal in a situation where you might for whatever reason need to end its life to protect your own or someone elses.

Did you miss the part where I said im avoiding the big ones? im getting a 6' rtb. Male. I should be ok

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

It only takes 3-8 seconds for you to be unconscious, if you can react, draw and fire that fast without warning you are lucky as hell, considering you won't feel it happening half the time. Also, what if you arms are tied (lol)

Ive seen a man choked out and it takes a bit longer than 3 secs

[Wildside]

Phil do you intend to handle your six footer in one hand, and a six shooter in the other?