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04-29-03, 05:01 PM
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that reply proves BW's point.
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04-29-03, 06:13 PM
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BW, I agree and that is one of my biggest problems at this point is getting people to listion or take me seriously. I really dont know anyone else to help me that has time and the only person I know doesnt seem to care.
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04-29-03, 11:31 PM
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I think everyone has agood point here. I tend to look at the good a person does, rather than the bad. His handaling practices are definitly not good for the "younger audience", but at the same time he does tell everyone watching at home that its taken him years upon years to be able to do this stuff the way he does it, and that they should NEVER try this themselves. Not that all kids listen, but he does say it. Personaly, I haven't done any research on the Erwin's, but I do enjoy Steve's spunk, funny/stupid things he does, and their show.
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04-30-03, 06:22 AM
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mmkay.
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05-02-03, 01:27 AM
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Well, just thought I'd add my two cents about Steve...
While one might agree that he appears reckless and takes uneeded risks with hots and other potentially dangerous reptiles. I think we all have to agree that his heart is in the right place. The reason he handles the animals the way he does is not for his benefit (obviously he has many other alternatives to free-handling) but he believes it's the best for the creatures involved. He doesn't like the use of tranquilizers or sedatives. We may discount him, but at the same time he has the creditals and experience most of us will only dream of. Personally, I am not one to judge a person I've never met (or even one I have met for that matter). That is simply not my place here on earth. However, I do see that he is extremely passionate, knowledgable and sensitive to the animals he handles. He is truely a one-of-a-kind in this world full of head-cases. As for his shows being set up... If it is or isn't is not what matters... he's educating the public and allowing them to see the many wonderful and positive qualities about reptiles that most people abhor. His technique may leave something to be desired, but I hold the utmost respect for him. Personally, I don't think I'd have the balls to do what he does, experience or not!
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05-02-03, 02:43 AM
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Krrc start a new thread about the way you feal and what you would like to do and see if any one here is wiling to give some advice get it all down on paper and see what is realistic and what just cant be done. E- mail me a copy and I would love to see what i can do with it i live in Canada so if you are in the country lets get our heads to geather and I will make some phone ring and see where we stand.
hey it is worth a shot and we have nothing to lose if we get some sort of progres we just have to contact some of the big guys in the herp indusrty and see what would be a good move to make we are all here to healp each other out arnt we?
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05-02-03, 06:11 AM
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wow.
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05-02-03, 06:14 AM
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do you ever have anything intelagent to say or are you power posting
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07-20-03, 09:53 PM
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good point on him running to the camera and the camera seeing the animal first. i totally agree jeff is way better. but i like mark o'shea better than jeff corwin.
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07-20-03, 10:02 PM
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i think steve erwin is a fake.... he always finds like wahtever animal he wants to find.....they pry just take the cage out in the open with a tamed animal and let it go and then whata ya know, HE FINDS WHAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR.
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07-20-03, 10:23 PM
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You know they shoot for days to get all those shots of him finding stuff. He has a large crew that searches the area and when something is spotted he's radio'd to go to that location for a possible shoot. Just something to think about guys
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07-20-03, 10:25 PM
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well then i guess hes not a true herp hunter or a true "crocodile hunter" if he has to have people find him the animals.....
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07-20-03, 10:41 PM
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Reptile dude, sorry to break it to you but he is only one person searching in rather large areas. He has people helping him to reduce the time it takes to find what he is looking for. I don't think that means he is not a 'true herper.' I said it once and I will say it again. Actually someone has already mentioned this. If there are venomous snakes in ones area, it is the parents' DUTY to make sure their kids understand the danger involved with the animals. It is also the parents responsibility to let their kids know that it is wrong to try and hold snakes the way Steve does. If they don't then I am sorry it is not Steves fault. Because I see people committing murders on Law and Order, that doesn't make it ok for me to murder someone. I think Steve is being used as a scape goat for the lack of responsibility in the parents. As for critisizm against him, once you have done half the things he has done, put half the money he has put into the conservation of animals, and spent half the time he has with animals, THEN can I accept him being critisized. Until then cut the guy some slack. He has done wonders for this world.
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07-20-03, 10:50 PM
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Is this thread ever going to end? even if Irwin is a fake he still know's what he is doing and talking about. Look at it this way if he just ran around on the show and found nothing how many of us would be watching it. As for Jeff and O'shea dont think they are not doing the same as Irwin. I also like Jeff out of them all and really think O'Shea is nothing but a " JOKE"
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07-20-03, 11:37 PM
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Well first, I just have to say WOW. This is a looong post. I agree with most of you.. it doesn't matter if he gets people to help him find the reptiles, in my opinion it makes the show better because there's a larger variety for us to see. reptiledude, if you think you can do better than Steve, by all means go ahead, but don't criticize someone for no good reason, just because you don't like him (or are jealous). One final thing, do you guys notice how Terri really tries to be like Steve, and Steve is always making her look really dumb, like she doesn't know what she's doing? Lol, I see that a lot in the newer episodes. Steve must be doing something right, though, this post hasn't been on here 24 hours and already it has more replies than most other ones.
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