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02-15-13, 09:56 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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Sorry Dave, I have to disagree with you on just that one point. They digest the exoskeleton quite readily.
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I think we're both half right on that one. The exoskeleton is a mixture of calcium (which they can digest) and chitin (which they cannot).
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02-15-13, 10:21 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
Agreed, and it appears that the amount of chitin in crayfish exoskeleton is relatively small compared to land based insects. The chitin acts more as a matrix on which the calcium binds, so stays a relatively small amount of the whole. For instance, I can see numerous roach exoskeleton parts in the waste of my monitor but almost no recognizable exoskeleton from a big meal of crayfish.
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02-15-13, 11:06 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
That's fair enough. It's been a long while since I've given my lace monitors crayfish (called yabbies here), but now that I think of it I don't recall there being exoskeletons in their faeces.
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02-17-13, 07:51 AM
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Re: monitor has gas?
So when you feed a monitor food with hard exoskeletons, should you expect to always see pieces of exoskeleton when they defecate? I ask because I feed my guy a diet of insects, rodents, and fish and rarely ever see pieces of exoskeletons in his feces- its usually some white chaulky stuff and a brown turd. His little poo varies in size depending on what type of meal he's had the few days before (he poos a few times a week).
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02-17-13, 09:10 AM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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So when you feed a monitor food with hard exoskeletons, should you expect to always see pieces of exoskeleton when they defecate? I ask because I feed my guy a diet of insects, rodents, and fish and rarely ever see pieces of exoskeletons in his feces- its usually some white chaulky stuff and a brown turd. His little poo varies in size depending on what type of meal he's had the few days before (he poos a few times a week).
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Not always. I feed mine on rodents, uncooked shelled prawns occasionally, locusts, worms, bettles and morio worms and have yet to see an exoskeleton. He also deficates almost daily.
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02-17-13, 09:44 AM
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Re: monitor has gas?
How many of us have actually placed the feces in a screen and washed it to see what is in it?
I have not. Biologists do for dietary studies.
If you really want to know what's in that poop, you are going to have to spend time getting close to it.
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02-17-13, 10:57 AM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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Not always. I feed mine on rodents, uncooked shelled prawns occasionally, locusts, worms, bettles and morio worms and have yet to see an exoskeleton. He also deficates almost daily.
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What do you mean by shelled? A shelled shrimp would mean peeled where I'm from.
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02-17-13, 12:17 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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What do you mean by shelled? A shelled shrimp would mean peeled where I'm from.
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It still has the shell on it lol. Probably should have said whole shrimp. Im not often the best for wording things :P
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02-17-13, 01:23 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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What do you mean by shelled? A shelled shrimp would mean peeled where I'm from.
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It depends on where you're from, I've ordered "shelled" crabs/shrimp/etc. and in different places it can mean with or without the shell. In this case I believe it means with the shell on.
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