True length of "record" giant pythons.

[Rogue628]

Originally Posted by millertime89

Thanks lemon, you were nicer than I would have been. He should read the links posted not just the posts themselves. Sources are provided by the author...

Yeah that's the Medusa in KC, not Harry's, she's a big girl but her owner is an idiot who is just fueling the misinformation fires and adding to the bs fear. Glad to see she's finally verified but I don't exactly trust Guiness a whole lot.

Ok, now I'm confused. There's 2 Medusa's? I thought the only one was at the haunted house and we've discussed her before....

[lemon]

Originally Posted by Donnie

Here is another '25 foot' retic verified (not the word I would use) by the guinness book of records for next year's addition (think this snake is mentioned in earlier in this thread). You would think they would actually measure the snakes to verify the lengths rather than believing the keepers estimates. How long do you all think this one is by the pictures?


The world¿s longest snake living in captivity weighs more than 300lbs, is 25ft long and lives in a haunted house in Kansas | Mail Online

On the 1st picture the small tiles are a square foot. If you follow and measure the snake based on this shes about 20-22ft.

Once again a very large animal and a very rare large size but not 25 foot and gunniness have verified this as much as they verified fluffy!

Plus, much more worrying is why they are feeding the poor snake a 40lb prey item weekly. Snakes this size do require large feeds but not every week. She is very overweight and this is to make her appear longer than she is.

The only thing they'll acheive with her is an early death.

I'll try and find the footage of the 23.5 foot wild retic that was captured and killed as that is still the longest retic I know off. Though she was wild caugt and was very very skinny compared to her captive relatives.

[lemon]

Originally Posted by millertime89

Thanks lemon, you were nicer than I would have been. He should read the links posted not just the posts themselves. Sources are provided by the author...

Yeah that's the Medusa in KC, not Harry's, she's a big girl but her owner is an idiot who is just fueling the misinformation fires and adding to the bs fear. Glad to see she's finally verified but I don't exactly trust Guiness a whole lot.

Lol :-)

I've been there though.

If you go back several years I also belived baby was 27ft and fluffy was 24ft etc.

I guess we never stop learning and that includes now :-)

I dont belive they are any genuine retics in captivity at the moment near 25ft but I would be so happy to be proved wrong i really would.

I belive there is probably a skinny 25footer somehwhere in the wild.

The longest are definitley in the wild but the largest due to available food will always be in captivity.

[lemon]

Originally Posted by Rogue628

Ok, now I'm confused. There's 2 Medusa's? I thought the only one was at the haunted house and we've discussed her before....

Harrys medusa is an albino.

The other medusa is an overwieght normal at a tourist attraction.

Both claimed at around 25 foot but both appear in the pictures provided about 21-22ft.

[Rogue628]

Ahh. I wasn't aware of the albino one. I knew about the other.

I thought Twinkie at Prehistoric Pets was verified at 23' and 370lbs. Wouldn't that make her the biggest? She's not as long but has more weight....

[lemon]

Originally Posted by Rogue628

Ahh. I wasn't aware of the albino one. I knew about the other.

I thought Twinkie at Prehistoric Pets was verified at 23' and 370lbs. Wouldn't that make her the biggest? She's not as long but has more weight....

From the pictures I've seen posted on the uk forums myself and other much more expericne large snake keepers have Twinkie at again around 21-22ft. Which an exceptionally large snake and she is definitley the heaviest retic i know off but again i think even that weight has been exagarrated.

Shes a lovely snake but if they carry on feeding her like they do she wont last that long.

Theres no way shes genetically that heavy from eating the same diet as most other large snakes and I remember them saying once that shes just a keen eater and likes to eat lots of food because shes a big girl. Most large snakes ive ever owned will eat whatever you put in front of them so this doesnt really wash with me.

Once again I believe shes been fed weekly what she should be eating monthly just like I suspect a high majority of these so called record breakers are.

[millertime89]

This exact discussion popped up on a FB group that I'm a member of and Steve Dawson, another person who keeps giant retics in the UK agrees with you. I'm curious, what do you think these 3 measure?



The guy holding this burm was about 6 ft, he said that the last time they measured it, it was around 7ft in length, I told him they should measure again, looks to be a little over 10.


my brother is 5'10"


The first and the third had measurements quoted on the info boxes that were on the glass, I'm just curious what you think.

[Lankyrob]

Top one i reckon at 14foot?

Bottom one a little shorter?

[lemon]

Originally Posted by millertime89

This exact discussion popped up on a FB group that I'm a member of and Steve Dawson, another person who keeps giant retics in the UK agrees with you. I'm curious, what do you think these 3 measure?



The guy holding this burm was about 6 ft, he said that the last time they measured it, it was around 7ft in length, I told him they should measure again, looks to be a little over 10.


my brother is 5'10"


The first and the third had measurements quoted on the info boxes that were on the glass, I'm just curious what you think.

The top has just been fed because the neck is realy large just behind the snakes head. I think its about 10-11ft but look longer due to it being full of food.

The guy holding the burmese if he is 6ft tall then the snake is clearly over 7 foot. I agree with you its looks just over 10ft to me aswell.

Its difficult to tell with the retic in the last picutre but it looks larger than mine which is 15-16ft but it doesnt look huge like medusa etc. I would guess at around 18ft-20ft but its so difficult to tell in that picture.

[millertime89]

the top one has terrible perspective, closer to 18 feet, each length was about 5 feet plus the tail that is curled around, the albino was around 12-14. The retic was quoted as 22 but the curator thinks she's closer to 20 which looked about right when my brother was laying down and I was close to the glass. Its hard to get good pictures like that and show everything.

I found the study where it claims a 10 meter retic was found. Check out page 39.
http://ia700503.us.archive.org/18/it...tory55newy.pdf
Here's the important bit.
"told me of a huge python one of their natives had killed a few days before my arrival, and showed me a very poor photograph of it taken after it had been killed and dragged to camp. Though the print was dull, you could see a man standing on the huge body, which was about a foot thick. The civil engineer told me it was just ten meters (33 feet) long. I asked him if he had paced off its length, but he said, no, he had measured it with a surveying tape. No part of the animal was preserved. It had been rainy weather when it was killed and on account of the dampness not even the skin was kept. I visited the place where the carcass had been cast aside. There was only the odor, and a few little pieces of bone left. Wild pigs, kites, monitors, and maggots were the jungle scavengers that had disposed of it. I greatly regretted not having arrived at this place a little sooner, as I very much wanted a large python and this was the largest one I had heard of."

So no hard evidence, just a civil engineer who claims he taped it off. No body, no remains, just a smell.

[lemon]

Originally Posted by millertime89

the top one has terrible perspective, closer to 18 feet, each length was about 5 feet plus the tail that is curled around, the albino was around 12-14. The retic was quoted as 22 but the curator thinks she's closer to 20 which looked about right when my brother was laying down and I was close to the glass. Its hard to get good pictures like that and show everything.

I found the study where it claims a 10 meter retic was found. Check out page 39.
http://ia700503.us.archive.org/18/it...tory55newy.pdf
Here's the important bit.
"told me of a huge python one of their natives had killed a few days before my arrival, and showed me a very poor photograph of it taken after it had been killed and dragged to camp. Though the print was dull, you could see a man standing on the huge body, which was about a foot thick. The civil engineer told me it was just ten meters (33 feet) long. I asked him if he had paced off its length, but he said, no, he had measured it with a surveying tape. No part of the animal was preserved. It had been rainy weather when it was killed and on account of the dampness not even the skin was kept. I visited the place where the carcass had been cast aside. There was only the odor, and a few little pieces of bone left. Wild pigs, kites, monitors, and maggots were the jungle scavengers that had disposed of it. I greatly regretted not having arrived at this place a little sooner, as I very much wanted a large python and this was the largest one I had heard of."

So no hard evidence, just a civil engineer who claims he taped it off. No body, no remains, just a smell.

I will really need to be convinced the first one is 18ft lol. 18ft is one heck of a size burmese and it doesnt look aynway near that.

Is that article the same as the 33ft snake that the guiness records have as the largest snake?

I'm still to believe that any living snake species can get anywhere near 30ft. Just to find a true 25ft plus retic would be quite a find

[millertime89]

I said closer to 18, she was a chunky burm and I don't think I have any better pictures with a good point of reference for her.

I believe it is the same article they reference, yes, however their site no longer has it listed so I'm not sure what their stance is anymore. For what its worth they still list Fluffy as the longest in captivity as 24ft even though she was accurately measured, on video, at 20ish.

[millertime89]

Here's a few more of the retic




the albino burm yawned for everyone to see.

[Rogue628]

Love the albino burm. How long is she? It's really hard to tell in that pic. She still has a nice bit of white to her.

[Gungirl]

When it comes to snakes I think the typical man rule applies... for every 8" they say it is we should assume its 3"......