Euthanasia - Page 6

jarich · 02-15-12, 08:47 AM

Wow, talk about a weird direction this thread went in! Hahahaha.

insignia100 · 02-15-12, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRhoads

So if you are against ear cropping and such for cosmetic purposes I assume you are against circumcision in newborns? It is pretty similar. Genital mutilation without permission. Anyone else feel like the comparison is very similar and it's odd how society just accepts that one and doesn't give it two thoughts...?

Actually, yes, I am...

Jenn_06 · 02-15-12, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jarich

Wow, talk about a weird direction this thread went in! Hahahaha.

about to say the same thing lol

RandyRhoads · 02-15-12, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jarich

Wow, talk about a weird direction this thread went in! Hahahaha.

Sorry I was looking at getting a doberman a while back and considered cropping the ears and somehow got into a huge debate with someone over this and thought it was odd how people can be against ear cropping yet chop off part of their newborn childs junk.

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Originally Posted by Skumbo

^ your dive trip experience is how Co2 will make you feel, if you look up the pathological effects of Co2 on how it kills you, basically you cant breath air anymore (because Co2 wont let your blood take air) and you feel like the air is thinning and thinning like you did, despite there being air for you to breath.

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That is not how it kills you, that would be CO . CO has a much higher affinity for hemoglobin in your red blood cells and will bind to them 240 times more readily than O2, creating carboxyhemoglobin, preventing O2 from being able to bind to them since they are already "taken". Resulting in hypoperfusion of body tissue and eventually death.

Co2 on the other hand needs to be expelled from the body. If it can not be blown off you will suffer from respiratory acidosis (a decreases in PH) turning your blood much to acidic. Making you (or the animal, in this case) confused and appearing to be drunk and leading to death.

Strutter769 · 02-15-12, 12:35 PM

Well, I put down about 8 or so pups last night. I definitely don't have it down to a science yet, that's for sure. I couldn't tell if the movement is saw was post-mortem (sp.) or not, so while they were at least asleep I put them in a Ziploc straight into the freezer. Next time I think I just have to leave them in the chamber a bit longer after it's filled with gas.

Skumbo · 02-16-12, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRhoads

Sorry I was looking at getting a doberman a while back and considered cropping the ears and somehow got into a huge debate with someone over this and thought it was odd how people can be against ear cropping yet chop off part of their newborn childs junk.

That is not how it kills you, that would be CO . CO has a much higher affinity for hemoglobin in your red blood cells and will bind to them 240 times more readily than O2, creating carboxyhemoglobin, preventing O2 from being able to bind to them since they are already "taken". Resulting in hypoperfusion of body tissue and eventually death.

Co2 on the other hand needs to be expelled from the body. If it can not be blown off you will suffer from respiratory acidosis (a decreases in PH) turning your blood much to acidic. Making you (or the animal, in this case) confused and appearing to be drunk and leading to death.

Hah you're right, i had em mixed up in my head. Stupid chem 2 test ive been studying for has my brain all full of VSEPR structures and hydrization instead of basics :P