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04-03-11, 06:23 PM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
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Well, what is the largest enclosure length 2' or 3' ?
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Originally, I was looking at no more than 2 feet long ... but after seeing which types would suit in my family best, I realized, I should stretch up to 3 feet .... but for sure I dont have room for more than that.
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04-04-11, 05:55 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
Most of the 'non-selling' information sites that made some research on the Collared Lizard, they all say a minimum enclosure of 3 feet for a couple of them ... So maybe I should be ok with a Collared Lizard?1
Its just impossible for me to have a 4 foot enclosure, no room at all. I'm already giving away some of my big Orchids to make room for the new pet!
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04-04-11, 06:27 AM
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The Scorpion Whisperer
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
Honestly I really don't know why you don't go with the Leopard. If you are really worried about them not being active during the day more than one person has said in this thread that they are active day and night. Besides the beardie (I have one) they are generally easy to take care of environment wise and will readily eat crickets. Then you can have a 30 gallon tank like you are wanting.
Either that or you need to downplay some of your "finickiness" if you just really really want a lizard. And sorry if I am coming off a bit snippy, but you just seem to keep going around in circles about the issue.
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04-04-11, 06:44 AM
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Non Carborundum Illegitimi
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
It isnt necessarily the size of the reptile that defines the size of the tank but also the heat gradient required and how active the animal is.
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04-04-11, 06:46 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
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Honestly I really don't know why you don't go with the Leopard. If you are really worried about them not being active during the day more than one person has said in this thread that they are active day and night. Besides the beardie (I have one) they are generally easy to take care of environment wise and will readily eat crickets. Then you can have a 30 gallon tank like you are wanting.
Either that or you need to downplay some of your "finickiness" if you just really really want a lizard. And sorry if I am coming off a bit snippy, but you just seem to keep going around in circles about the issue.
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I WONT downplay some of my ''FINICKINESS'' I WILL find what I am looking for! I know what I want and I know what I have to offer. Why I have being picky about what I can have. I am responsible enough to at least get info I need and not just buy one and say it will be ok in the tiny tank, like most new reptile owners do!
And maybe I can suggest you to just ignore my thread if you are 'snippy' and annoyed. Because that wont solve anything but to cause friction. I came here for help, to have information on different species ... not to have my mind changed about what I want. So I am sorry about that! NO NOCTURNAL and that is my main criteria.
Now my only issue is to get more information on my FINAL 4 choices so I can see if either one will be ok in a enclosure of about 3 feet cage. So the Gecko been scratched off my list a long time ago.
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04-04-11, 06:50 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
gonna have to agree with nenna in the fact that you are just dancing in circles all day not accomplishing anything. you can easily look up all this information online. if you apparently KNOW WHAT YOU WANT and everything you say, go research it and you won't have to hear anything your closed mind doesn't want to
everyone has pretty much told you everything about the lizards we suggest and our opinions on them. the rest is on you.
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04-04-11, 06:51 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
the four choices you mentioned will NOT be right for a 3 foot enclosure for the reasons previously stated.
I do have to kinda agree with Nenna tho, you have asked for advice and everytime something is mentioned you have given reasons not to follow it. When you have asked questions and they have been answered it doesnt seem to have sunk in and it does seem that the same questions are coming up again and again.
Snapping back at someone who is a much longer term member of the forum also isnt going to help with getting advice from people that are volunteering their advice, knowledge and experience for free. We are all going out of our way to help you get what you want but it does seem that what you are specifically looking for doesnt exist, so compromise is needed - it is up to you what compromises you are prepared to make but the health and well being of any animal that ends up in your home is the most important thing and this can not be compromised in any way.
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04-04-11, 06:59 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
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you can easily look up all this information online. if you apparently KNOW WHAT YOU WANT and everything you say, go research it
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So you are basically saying what I will research is right info?
The 3 feet enclosure mentioned for a single adult Collared is right then.
What I read and things said on here doesn't match, WHY THE HELL I GET CONFUSED
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04-04-11, 07:03 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
obviously you have to do a lot of research and find the right information, which takes some real cognitive brain capacity. sorry for my stupid assumtion of you having any.
ps. mikey, i'm starting to understand you more each day.
you must be rubbing off on me
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04-04-11, 10:10 PM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
Personally, I would say "Beardies" are an awesome choice for beginners. As said previously, they keep pretty much the same schedule as we humans, active during the day and asleep at night. They are also very tame. A popular practice when handling dragons is to place them on your chest like a living lapel pin. They seem really content to just hang out, checking out the scenery. The only drawback I can think of is the fact they eat. LOT!But again, they have a wide variety of foods they eat. Always have some fresh dark greens on-hand (kale, mustard greens, collard greens, etc). Grey healthy and they love them! I had my first two dragons shortly after I adopted my first snake and now I have five. They come in so many colors, and a few sizes (see German Giants)you're guaranteed to find one you'll love to care for. I definitely recommend finding a breeder in your area as opposed to a pet store though. 99% of the time you'll get a healthier animal that way you and your family can enjoy for years. Let us know what you decide!
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04-05-11, 04:38 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
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Snapping back at someone who is a much longer term member of the forum also isnt going to help with getting advice from people that are volunteering their advice, knowledge and experience for free. We are all going out of our way to help you get what you want but it does seem that what you are specifically looking for doesnt exist, so compromise is needed - it is up to you what compromises you are prepared to make but the health and well being of any animal that ends up in your home is the most important thing and this can not be compromised in any way.
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Very well said once again Sir Rob.....
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04-05-11, 04:49 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
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Very well said once again Sir Rob.....
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i feel like you should be knighting him while you say that. ^^
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04-05-11, 04:59 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
That was the general idea behind what I said
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04-05-11, 07:49 AM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
When you read a caresheet and it say a minimum size of #x#x#, it's not always the best size.
Nothing wrong with doing research and joining a reptile forum to get the answers you need, it's much better than getting a reptile and buy things that aren't the best and then joining a forum and find out what is wrong with your setup.
Make sure if you do get a collard lizard that it is captive breed, if wild caught it will more than likely be full of parasites, mites and will be stressed out which often leads to death.
Here is my set up for my bearded dragon. The enclosure it self is 4.5' x 2' x 2'
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04-05-11, 08:30 PM
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Re: Which lizard - gecko would be best for me?
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Originally Posted by mld
When you read a caresheet and it say a minimum size of #x#x#, it's not always the best size.
Nothing wrong with doing research and joining a reptile forum to get the answers you need, it's much better than getting a reptile and buy things that aren't the best and then joining a forum and find out what is wrong with your setup.
Make sure if you do get a collard lizard that it is captive breed, if wild caught it will more than likely be full of parasites, mites and will be stressed out which often leads to death.
Here is my set up for my bearded dragon. The enclosure it self is 4.5' x 2' x 2'
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Super nice I love it!!
I finally decided on a Mali Uromastyx !! Am so excited. Was able to buy a used 4f tank. Pet store used Calci-Sand .... but I read its too dusty .... For now its what I have until I can figure out what is best to use.
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