how to get my humidity higher - Page 6

siz · 02-13-09, 04:07 PM

I didn't say mold, you don't nessecerily see bacteria that your snake could ingest or come into contact with. Moving water is good, but even those waterfalls you can get can grow a LOT of bacteria, and that's constanly moving water.

Chu'Wuti · 02-13-09, 06:39 PM

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I have a nice sized hide in thier house that I made out of a flower pot.

This suggests to me that MurderAuction has both snakes in the same enclosure. MurderAuction, it's a very bad idea to have more than one snake in one enclosure. Get a 20-gallon enclosure for the little one. If you have male and female and wish to breed them, read about breeding BPs thoroughly before putting them back together--when they are both large enough to breed safely.

MurderAuction · 02-14-09, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chu'Wuti

This suggests to me that MurderAuction has both snakes in the same enclosure. MurderAuction, it's a very bad idea to have more than one snake in one enclosure. Get a 20-gallon enclosure for the little one. If you have male and female and wish to breed them, read about breeding BPs thoroughly before putting them back together--when they are both large enough to breed safely.

Yes I bought them together in the same aquarium and haven't thought about whether or not they should be together because I see them together all the time. At the pet store I go to they're are several sets of BP's together.

I've seen them housed together at other places also. I could find the thread on here about housing more than one together but I found a few threads on others sites.

I'm going to go out now and get the needed items to set my other tank up.

Thanks for your advise.

MurderAuction · 02-14-09, 09:04 PM

today I got a hygrometer and some cypress mulch. According to the meter both my temp and humidity are well within range.

I took the smaller ball out and put into another aquarium. It is a little more active in the new house. Is this because it's new or do you think it feels better being away from the big guy.

The little one ate after I moved it, but the big one although it shows more interest in the rat still didn't eat.

After you post about housing them together though I read that housing 2 together could be the reason that the larger one is not eating. So I'm hoping a week or so alone might prod him to eat.

Thank you all who suggested that housing 2 together is a bad idea. I would have never thought about it since i see them that way via the pet store all the time. I suppose the pet store doesn't know or doesn't see it as a worry since they figure the snakes will be sold before they can hurt each other. Unless I just happened across a thread that mentioned 2 not being housed together I would have been in the dark without you.

Tomorrow first thing I have to go and get a top for the cage that I now have the little one in. Plus I will need a new water bowl, heat light, and meters. This tank is just temp until i can find something bigger.

GoodSmeagol · 02-14-09, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MurderAuction

today I got a hygrometer and some cypress mulch. According to the meter both my temp and humidity are well within range.

I took the smaller ball out and put into another aquarium. It is a little more active in the new house. Is this because it's new or do you think it feels better being away from the big guy.

Thank you all who suggested that housing 2 together is a bad idea. I would have never thought about it since i see them that way via the pet store all the time. I suppose the pet store doesn't know or doesn't see it as a worry since they figure the snakes will be sold before they can hurt each other. Unless I just happened across a thread that mentioned 2 not being housed together I would have been in the dark without you.

Tomorrow first thing I have to go and get a top for the cage that I now have the little one in. Plus I will need a new water bowl, heat light, and meters. This tank is just temp until i can find something bigger.

good stuff dude.

You will find pet stores are out to make $$$$, they will try and sell you dirt and say its gold. I never trust them, and rarely go into them.

What do you have covering the new smaller cage right now? Balls are escape artists, be careful there.
Good luck

Chu'Wuti · 02-14-09, 10:58 PM

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I took the smaller ball out and put into another aquarium. It is a little more active in the new house. Is this because it's new or do you think it feels better being away from the big guy.

I'll bet he feels a lot less stressed! You're right, the pet stores do it all the time. [SHUDDER]

I'm with Good Smeagol--get a cover on that tank if you don't have one--and make sure it's tight. BPs can stretch much higher than you might think--a 24" stretch is no problem for even an only 27-30" snake! I'm amazed at how strong they are--they can balance on just a couple inches of tail while going straight up the side of an enclosure. If there's anything to climb on that will get them higher, even a 16" BP can reach 24" without much difficulty.

GoodSmeagol · 02-15-09, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chu'Wuti

I'll bet he feels a lot less stressed! You're right, the pet stores do it all the time. [SHUDDER]

I'm with Good Smeagol--get a cover on that tank if you don't have one--and make sure it's tight. BPs can stretch much higher than you might think--a 24" stretch is no problem for even an only 27-30" snake! I'm amazed at how strong they are--they can balance on just a couple inches of tail while going straight up the side of an enclosure. If there's anything to climb on that will get them higher, even a 16" BP can reach 24" without much difficulty.

THOSE LIL BUGGERS EH!
My first ball, I thought I had the lid tightly secured with velcra straps.
Came home from work one night and who was crawling across my floor?
THE LIL BUGGER!
I am... lucky, some people are not so much.

Kmef07 · 02-15-09, 04:04 PM

I have yet to have my snake get out. i've been so lucky it seems like my wooden top is heavy enough to keep it down but i dunno i guess i just need to stop being lazy and get some straps. the top is only about 10-20 pounds how big does my brb need to be to be able to get that off? and even if it does push it up a little it would crush it i would assume when it tried to slither between the top and the tank. my finger got stuck in it once and it hurt like a son of a gun.

MurderAuction · 02-16-09, 12:02 PM

The larger BP spent about 2 days in the hide before coming out now that the little one is in another home. But he was out this morning on the oppisite side of the tank so I'm guessing he was warming up.

I got a new top, lamp, and bulb for the smaller one today. She (I don't actually know that it's a female) also went into the hide in the new tank and hasn't come out other than the tip of her head.

Do the red and blue bulbs that I see actually out off a significant amount of heat? I read that BP don't like bright light and it's best to use the red or blue lights so I have been buying the red.

Kmef07 · 02-16-09, 01:42 PM

the red ones can give off a huge amount of heat. they come in different wattages and you need to make sure it is the night heat bulb and not just a red bulb. look for the ones that say infra red. i had a 75w bulb that i used and it was hotter than a 75w basking bulb. it gives a great amount of heat off and you should be able to see it.

**Aaron_S** · 02-17-09, 08:00 AM

Most snakes don't even need an item to climb to get to the top of the enclosure. I've seen snakes just squeeze themselves into corners of tanks and shimmy up.

siz · 02-17-09, 08:38 AM

Thats how my Cali King escaped. They are surprisingly strong, the enclosure was pretty high and there was weight on the lid.

bugger · 02-18-09, 02:34 PM

I've bought two humidifiers at yard sales, for $2 and one with a timer and all for $5.
You can attach hoses to the exhaust, if you remove the deflector vent, and route the humidity where you want it.
I'd keep the hose short though or the vapor may condense in the hose itself.

I think the plant idea is nice. I don't have plants myself, at this time.

I think that ventilation is probably necessary, but snakes live a hole, or some do, and ventilation is probably minimal in there, or I would think so anyway.
I'd think it's species specific.

My tank is usually 40% or higher, and I live in Phoenix where it's really dry.
My snakes don't need high humidity, or so I was told, so I don't use the humidifiers for them.

bugger · 02-18-09, 03:02 PM

Somebody was telling me at a rep show this weekend to take a plastic box of some kind and put a hole in it, then fill it will moss and dampen it. put half the box over the heated end of the tank and the other over the unheated. The moisture will condense and create a rainforest affect, so he said. It's a special rainforest hide box

The snake can go in when he wants high humidity, and leave when he has enough.

bugger · 02-18-09, 03:47 PM

I think that a humidifier with a hide positioned partially over the heater will do well for you.
Open water drinkers should also help.
The plants that get watered should also help.
Go to a herp show and see how the pro's do it. Maybe go to their homes to see how they set them up for optimal, or would that be hyperherptioptimal living.