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Old 12-21-04, 11:33 PM   #76
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Chuck I see your point, but like I said, these people are running to the water to fetch whatever it is they need to fetch. Niles hunt the rivers edge, where these guys are frolicking. A 16' Nile will see anything and one as a food source, and being where they were, that's what became of them.
If the animal went into the village, I would be singing a different song.

The animal in the video was in a different situation. One, the animal probably wasn't hungry; Two, the animal was possibly stressed and three, the animal most likely didn't see the person as a food source at the given time being the situation. In this sense, being the Nile was in food mode, we cannot distribute the two as an argumentative situation.

Nile crocodiles eat humans every year. All animals varying in size and all accounts being either in or around the waters edge. This is the feeding zone of these animals and in this zone things will happen not everyone would like. Blaming it on the animal, which true has basic thinking capabilities, is ridiculous being it is still restricted and is limited. The animal points out, food source being easily attainable in this particular area, I would bet any other animal in this area would have been taken as well. Much like the migration, a lot of the Niles will congregate in a particular area being that is where the food source is easily obtainable. Same situation.

The croc had more than enough teeth to do what had to be done. I'm aware croc teeth aren't designed only to hold, however they do and his can. This animal has enough teeth to do what's needed to be done. Also, most crocodilians in captivity already associate humans as food, and if given the chance would most likely take you out. This animal was only 10" at the time of the pic several years ago and even at the age associated me as food. As do all of my animals.


Having this animal from another really isn't much of a difference if you're worried about being attacked. Now, as you've said, the price may not be practical. Understood. And though I would love a beast like this as well, I as well would not pay the amount needed for it. A Nile croc is a Nile croc. If it were anywhere in the states, I would be the first one in line trying my hands at catching the beast.

Anyway, as I've said, these people had to do what had to be done. That's perfectly fine. What happened to the animal afterwards? And, has anyone got this story?

I'll get upset when some other animal eats a friend or family member and I'd bet my last dollar every one of you would too. You'd be holding the torch on the monster hunt.

It would be terrible seeing you lose all your money. I've had a family member murdered, and I still do not wish death on this guy. I mean seriously, what would it prove? Wouldn't make me feel any better. Wouldn't bring him back. Mind you I'm upset about it, but wishing death is a far cry from my mind. I would feel the same with any thing else because as with anything else, it would prove nothing.
Now, If I were hunting and crocs were my gig- Ok sure.

I only wish to be someone famous...

My argument is the man eating bit and I'm basing this on my 9 years of keeping and helping and watching others with their animals.
-Mind you, a few examples of specimens may venture from my sayings, but we'll talk about that later.

By the way, I'm leaving town for the holidays so it would be great if someone emailed me the story.
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Old 12-22-04, 12:09 AM   #77
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You guys are stupid. One call to steve irwin/animal planet and there would have been a 2 hour special in the making.
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Old 12-22-04, 05:08 PM   #78
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Let me say what i think of all this.
First, i still say it's stupid to get revenge on an animal, and that people should know the laws of the country they live in.
Crocs are part of the natural fauna of most African countries and i'm not sure you can just kill one if you feel like it. I'm sure the local government is responsible for the payment of physical, moral or property loss, as a result of an action from a protected species. So those people could have asked for a lot of cash (we are talking about the death of people, here).
Instead, because they shoot first and asked later, they could be in trouble. I
remind that Crocodylus niloticus is CITES-A in Ethiopia, Botswana, Kenya, Malaui, Mozambique, Tanzania, SouthAfrica, Zambia and Zimbabwe.
They have a small exportation quota in
Madagascar and Uganda. that's it.
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No animal rights activits goal is to remove people from the planet, where ever you got that from....

Animals were here first, the dinosaurs and giant reptiles (animals) were here long before mman kind. If you would like to go by the Bible, God also states animals were created first.
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Old 12-22-04, 06:11 PM   #80
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Animal Rights Organizations well you might want to look into some of their goals. I wonder why some are listed as Terrorist organizations ??

Rikki I see you have PETA at the bottom of every message are you a card carying member? If so how is it that you own and keep animals ?
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Old 12-22-04, 07:27 PM   #81
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It's better to own animals than "animals minus the inside", hehe.
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Old 12-22-04, 08:48 PM   #82
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I can't beleive that people on Reptile forums actually believe the stuff they write...Always being so politically correct and kiss-a....If a croc kills anyone ..kill it...simple ...sad for both the croc and the person.......What Education can you give to the swimmers or the people who live near the water...none that they don't already have....Relocation/captive care...nope....who is going to pay...no one.....and if people can't open their pocketbooks to pay for the stray cat/dogs in their own area...come on
This animal was precious...just like the animals you feed your snakes or the crickets to your gechos......
PS The guys on the Rat/Mice web sites HATE us Remember that...lol
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One word for all of you: RELOCATE
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woh...that's huge!!
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Old 12-23-04, 12:35 AM   #85
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Rikki....If you look close ...we are animals also...through some quirk in evolution we became the big kahunas on the planet..for now anyways......and just like the grade 9 science experiment with fruit flys in a jar," species equalibrium" , we will extent our natural enviorment until extinction....until another "animal" comes along to do the same thing....Bible stuff notwithstanding
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Don't worry we'll all be gone soon....

And there is nothing we can do.... or is there.

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Coldblooded We can run screaming in fear "THE SKY IS FALLING" Oh that was a chicken wasn't it . Oh well we'll just try running and screaming then or for this time of year "The tree is falling the tree is falling" Bobby get your damm snake out of f " ing christmas tree !!!!

Geckos don't make good tree ornaments!!!


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Four words for you..

Relocation would not work.
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Old 12-25-04, 01:03 AM   #89
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i think they should stop killing animals just becase they are eating humans. they are just trying to keep well fed so they can survive and live another day. i say leave the crocs and snakes and all other animals that are killing for food.humans do a lot wors than that ok.
that was proble a 65 year old croc he deservs a good easy meal.
there are somthing like 8 billion people jus ask your self how many years untill there are 0 nile crocs




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Old 12-25-04, 01:04 AM   #90
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I agree with those who say the croc should have been killed, and for the same reasons too. No need to mention them.

However, this reminds me of a show I saw a while back on TV. There was a man-eater croc somewhere along the Nile, and it had eaten several (5+) people. You would think that the natives in the area where it was would exercise extreme caution when fetching water or whatever. Nope. I couldnt believe it when I saw little kids fishing and playing in knee deep water in rural parts of the river, the same exact area this croc was in. The same went for the men and women too. No caution whatsoever, just walking around and in the river like it was perfectly safe.

The point of this post is too agree, to a degree, with what Zane said. Some of these people are just stupid. I dont care how poor they are, they should know better than that.
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